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I'd give the nod to the 80's era, but if this were a poll I'm sure I'd get way outvoted. Those teams in 84, 85, and 86 were very good.

Prior to this year, it appears the last time no NKY team won a title was 03, which was part of an uncharacteristic three year drought for NKY schools (01 and 02 included). Prior to that you have to go back to 1995, then back to 1990. It doesn't happen very often. Interesting piece of trivia, last time no NKY team appeared in a state championship game was 1978. My guess is we may have a thread like this sometime around 2023. I think NKY will be alright.

Scott Moore, son of Boone Judge Exec. Gary Moore.

Just pointing out that district cancelled all events until 3 pm and the event starts at 3 pm. Maybe it's just a coincidence though....

Kenton County has cancelled all activities until 3 p.m. today. Guessing this means games are on since they begin at 3.

I think the Woolf/Niederman parallel is fitting in this situation. Both applied for other jobs, but both remained in the same position for many years. Niederman did leave Boone briefly for Bellevue, but returned. My take on this is it's hard for an assistant coach from a staff with as much discord that went on at Boone and Ryle to get the job. Right or wrong, the whole staff is indicted when a coach is dismissed or resigns under pressure. That's not a knock on Woolf, just my take on the obstacle he has to overcome if he wants the job. Him teaching in the building likely will help his cause though. I think many are overlooking how important teaching openings in the high school may be in the hiring process. If the school wants a teacher they likely want that teacher "in the building," not at another school. At that point, you have a paraprofessional. And as one local football coach noted recently, with test scores coming under more and more scrutiny, principals aren't so quick to hire any old teacher just because they can coach. Principals are hiring the best teacher these days, because their jobs are on the line if they don't. Few things to keep in mind.

My guess is the Woolf (sp?) being referred to is Mike Woolf, CovCath grad and longtime Ryle assistant. I could be wrong, but I think he's been the defensive coordinator for quite a while, and generally considered to be Warner's top assistant. He works in the building. My take on Woolf is two-fold. On the one hand, he has been very loyal to the program and school in remaining as an assistant when he certainly could have landed a head coaching job someplace in NKY by now. Flip side, by remaining at Ryle he is now part of all the reasons why the school felt a change needed to be made. My guess that makes it tough for him to sell himself to those hiring that he is the answer they are looking for. I liken his situation to Niederman last year at Boone County. Both are good coaches with a passion for their school, but I see Woolf suffering the same fate Kyle did last year. Just my two cents.

If I had to guess, this game gets moved to PBS. Portune is really pushing for it, and he gets his way a lot with the commissioners. Obviously, that is just a guess though.

Was not aware of the change in lyrics, albeit small, but even one word changes things. Thanks for the heads up. Springsteen inked the original, but it appears the quoted was from Mann. SidelineDoc and Ram were correct. Note to self, don't spend too much time trying to be smarter than someone who has Doc in their username.

Blinded by the Light was written by Bruce Springsteen. It's been performed by several, including both parties listed. But if you quote the lyrics, you are quoting Springsteen.

Seldom quote myself, but on the bolded, I was wrong. UC is at Houston Saturday, so Nippert would have been available as well. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next day.

On the PBS site, I don't know what reason(s) may be involved in the game not being played there, so I want to tread lightly here. But, if cost of the facility was an issue, the Bengals should be blasted in every media outlet available in the city this week. When those lobbying for PBS being built (at the cost of Hamilton County taxpayers) one of the many promises they made was that the stadium would be available for events exactly like this. For a time, it was. I haven't seen it lately. Here we have two Hamilton County high schools, playing the game of the year in Cincinnati, and the game will be played in another county. This, while the Mecca Hamilton County taxpayers built sits dark and empty. As I said, there could be a lot of reasons for this, I just hope cost is NOT one, because... A lot of fans (many of whom will be Hamilton County residents) are not going to be able to get into this game at Mason High School. If the game is at PBS, not only does everyone get in, but everyone can come downtown and spend money wherever before and after the game. Good for the players, good for the schools, good for the fans, good for the businesses that invested in downtown, and an example that maybe the taxpayers of Hamilton County made a good choice.

I was surprised by the choice of Mason High School as well. But UC does host Houston at Noon on Saturday. I guess someone decided that wouldn't be enough turnaround time for a 7 pm high school contest. Very surprised Paul Brown Stadium isn't the site. Bengals have the bye next weekend. Shouldn't be any conflicts there at all. And, if the weather cooperates I could see this game drawing 15 to 20 thousand.

Artificial turf. I'd get there a lot early, and I wonder if tickets will even be available by game night. I expect presale at both schools will be very heavy.

looked through the handbook Joker linked us to, and bottom line is, you don't want to be ejected. Not sure what prompted the ejection, but as i knew and was reaffirmed after reading the KHSAA website, ejection's are taken seriously.

Playing with house money at this point, so to the bolded. 1. Wow. That seems rather insulting. I just finished another book, and I thought I read it just fine. Was a little surprised when Jack came tumbling down. But what a cliffhanger. 2. Class A football tournament allows 32 schools to compete. Class A tournament in other sports allows roughly 120 schools to compete. Which tournament allows only certain schools to participate, and what schools are being excluded? 3. Was this the comparison in which you used pro football versus college football, while we were discussing high school football? Yeah, I did kind of brush that one off. On a side note, I am working really hard to become a better reader, and I'm hoping you can help me. The last graph in the quoted was very difficult for me to read, because sometimes I expect there to be a comma.

You're like every bad girlfriend I've ever had. Ignore logic at all turns and turn the argument in 1,000 different directions while just digging deeper and deeper into a hole that you can't get out of. :lol2: To the bolded. The winner of the all A doesn't win the overall state title very often, because basketball is ONE class in the postseason. How often would the winner of class A, or AA, or AAA even in football win the state championship if football were only one class? So, to use the logic that "bit me in the butt," you don't have to be very good to win the A, AA, or AAA state football titles. Heck, I was giving all the state title winners in football the benefit of the doubt, but if you say they're not very good, who am I to argue? :banana: As for the second quoted. I stand by it. Case in point, I think Cooper made the championship game in 5A last year, and they were like the sixth or seventh best team in NKY.

Actually, the conference idea isn't a bad one in theory, although it's not right for Kentucky. Had Kentucky established conferences years and years ago, I think the tradition those conferences would have could have been a good thing. But, that time has passed. Conference play and championships are a big deal in Ohio for instance and it gives schools something to play for every week. We all know winning the GCL or GMC is a big deal. But to small schools who are closely bound by proximity and/or demographics winning their conference is a HUGE deal to the community. In Cincinnati, the CHL, and SBC are two such examples.

I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me, but I get how it works. Was there something inaccurate in my post? Did I miss something?

I compared two tournaments, not two sports. A tournament with 100 teams is more difficult to win than a tournament with 32 teams, agree or disagree? You failed to answer the question because you apparently don't understand it. One tournament allows the 120ish smallest schools in the state to play, the other allows the 32 largest or smallest depending if we're talking 6A or A here. Which tournament excludes teams? Let's face it, in this watered down format, football is far and away the easiest sport in the state to win a championship in. You don't even have to be very good to make the state finals in most instances, just have to avoid the right region long enough to get there.

Most of this post is nonsense, but to the bolded. So the other sports are different, but you use them for comparison sake when it is convenient for you to do so. Gotcha. And, what gives you the right to decide who has the right to complain about anything?

Anyone know Beatty's playoff record in Kentucky? And I am on the record as saying, yes I think Trinity wins it all again.

T and X are in the same district, so they have to play by round three of the playoffs every year. No rotation needed, one or both is eliminated in the regional rounds every year. The rotation system in 6A give schools in other regions a chance to avoid T and X two of every three years, and thus have a shot at making the state finals in those years.

Here's the thing. Every year when the football playoffs roll around, people post on here that the football playoffs aren't watered down, because everyone makes the post season in basketball and baseball. Then, when defending the need for six classes, people post that football is different than other sports, and that's why they need all those classes. Can't have it both ways.

Really, this is your best answer. You do realize these are two different levels of football, correct? That's like asking if one would rather have a high school state championship ring or a BCS championship ring. Which would you choose if that's your option? I'll ask you to do the math for me again. How does winning a High School tournament with as few as 32 teams of similar enrollment participating somehow mean more than winning a high school tournament with more than 100 teams of similar enrollment participating?