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I'm no historian but Beechwood wasn't winning any state titles in the late 80's, much less "racking them up". Tigers won one in 1984. Seems midish 80's to me. As for the last part of the bolded, what is the answer? Classification? Coaching? Other?

Agreed, within the confines of teams from the same area, district, region, et al. All of which means, little travel time, having an officiating crew you are familiar with (or rate), and have the ability to draw a decent crowd yourself. The Pit is a small advantage for Elder against other GCL's (Panthers always way outnumber the opponents crowd). It's huge advantage versus a Ky. school. GCL refs, if you are Trinity etc., travel becomes a factor, and so on. Dixie v Campbell County home field means nothing. Elder v NKY opponent home field advantage is relevant. With the thread in mind, I don't see why CovCath v any other local team would be much of a advantage. CovCath v Johnson Central, I think home field means something

I don't want to weigh in much more on this one, but I will say the addition of the Ruthsatz that wore a uniform was a HUGE reason why the Colonels did what they did last year. CCH coaching is solid, and they have plenty of talented players, but their PG made them a different team.

Just a point of order on the bolded. The basketball team did lose in the district round last year as well. Just happens that both teams advance. The football Colonels would certainly benefit from such a rule.

I haven't read anything but Ru's initial post, but between this thread and the Beechwood thread it must've been a slow news day. I don't mind the change of pace reading though Ru. Should be some fun posts to read.

MTGL, strictly speaking of the Harbin's, Malibu makes good points regarding Beechwood and Mt. Healthy. The Owls gain very little Harbin value from playing a team this much smaller enrollment wise. Not saying it isn't a good game for both teams, but from a Harbin standpoint, it wasn't Mt. Healthy's best option. Heck, from a Harbin's standpoint, Lloyd would have been a better option. I understand it was a Crosstown game though.

My take. GCL schools historically do look down on Kentucky schools, and do have a hard time getting up for them. Trinity has become something of an exception, but this is the general attitude. It's a GCL thing. GGCLfan explained it fairly well. They don't disrespect the Highlands or CovCath's of the world, they just think they're better. Highlands could play with Moeller this year. Not win, but a blowout would really surprise me. The top NKY team can typically play with, or beat, a top GCL school. This year is no different. History has proven it. The top NKY team would fall into trouble trying to actually play in the GCL though. It's one thing to win or stay close in one game. Quite another to play that level of competition week in and week out. That's what set the GCL apart, and in their eyes leads to my first thought.

Too early to take the Harbin's seriously yet. Lot's of league action (against mostly like-sized schools) left to be played. You'll see lots of movement in these rankings in the next several weeks. I will say GCL South has half a chance of crowning two state champions this year. Moeller is a favorite in D-I, and LaSalle is certainly among the top contenders in D-II. Decent little conference. FWIW, I don't think this will happen. But if a four team conference does win two state titles, that would be a heck of a thing.

Thanks. Makes sense now. Just reading the updates thread made the time out calls a little head-scratching. This clears it up.

On second thought, Went back and re-read the updates page. NKUCB19 posts that Ryle called timeout with 1:01 left prior to their third down play. Then, they call another timeout prior to punting on fourth down. This after running up the middle on first and second down. What the heck? If you are playing for OT, or just running the ball, why call timeouts? Seems like a huge coaching error if what I've read is correct. Couldn't Ryle have just allowed the clock to run to 0:00 and never had to punt?

That's what I figured. I thought I read in the update thread that Ryle had called a couple timeouts on the drive, which didn't make sense. I likely misread. Thanks for clearing that up.

Not going to really weigh in on this one other than to say, I said years ago Highlands has built a better mousetrap. CovCath has the resources to match the Birds, but you can't do so by continually charging the windmill the same way. (And that has nothing to do with game night.)

Did Ryle use any time-outs on their final drive? The drive that led to the botched punt play resulting in SK possession with a few seconds left?

This is fun. Plenty of interesting reading to say the least. I could say a lot more, but I'll leave it at that on the thread replies. Article should not have made it to print. I say this having only read about three sentences. It was that bad.

But to answer SportsGuy's question. It would not surprise me at all if your info is correct.

Elder/Ed's was on channel 64. I'm pretty sure they are doing a Saturday game of the week kind of thing throughout the season. To my knowledge this is the channel's first venture into broadcasting high school football live. FoxSports has been covering a high school game of the week on Thursday for more than a few years. Time-Warner channel 510ish is now doing these games (Withrow/Walnut Hills was tonight's game.) They are also televising games on other days either live or via tape delay. ESPN is covering a game tomorrow (Friday night) between the USA Today's top 2 teams. Game time is 9 p.m. and I think it's on ESPN, but it could be on 2.

Certainly two programs with differing scheduling philosophy's. Polar opposites in fact. Lloyd certainly sets up a non-district schedule to ensure some confidence. Dayton, Holmes, Owen, Gallatin, and Pendleton. Throw in district games with Holy Cross and Brossart and you've got yourself a schedule.

Ed's is loaded with talent. Always is. They tend to do less with more than about any team I can think of on an annual basis.

In Ohio's AP Division I state poll Moeller has been ranked first all year. St. Ed's has been second. Elder was not in the top 10 last week. Will be now.

Anyone have the school name of Valley?

I did hear that the pitching coach at NKU applied. No clue what the guy's name is, or if this is the college coach being discussed. My source on the info is a good one though, I just didn't get into specifics.

Short answer, the NKY 6A district is better than most other 6A districts in the state. By comparison to their 6A counterparts they are pretty good to good. Playing in the super district would not do any of them any favors. Aside from that, SK, Dixie, and CC would be fine to dominate depending on the district. Overall, 6A isn't very good, with a few very obvious exceptions. Not a fan of the Lexington district at all. Always over blown. Lexington football isn't that good (unless Stoops is working at your school, then it's improving).

VOR does a good job explaining his thoughts on this thread, especially in his last post. I respect both sides of the argument on this one, though I tend to side with keep playing the big schools. Typically, the games are marquee early season matchups that most area fans pay close attention to. That's a credit to the NCC and Beechwood programs. For those who are suggesting who each school play instead though, you do realize this is a two-way street correct? You can say Beechwood should play Lloyd and Newport all you want, if the other school wants no part of it, it's not happening. The middle-of-the-road NKY teams aren't ever going to stand in line to play NCC or Beechwood. If the Tigers and Breds don't play the schools they are playing now, they will find it tough to complete their schedule without traveling a significant amount. And travel/return games from teams out of the area also just crush revenue. Given all possibilities, the current schedule may be the best option for the schools. In year's like this, I get it has to be frustrating for everyone involved though.

Grimme?

Great stuff. Highly enjoyable. I don't remember all the names, but certainly remember some.