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Read your below quote and even you couldn't back up this post, you have them squarely in the five hole. No might. Brossart beat Mason head to head, beat Harrison head to head, split with Campbell. So the results would seem to move them to at least third on your list. Unless you choose to ignore results? No one is piling on, I saw a stupid post and pointed it out. Most of the time on BGP, we like posts like your first one to be based on results, stats or something tangible. Yours obviously was not, and several posters have pointed that out. If you don't like it, make posts with some validity.

delete.

This may be the most stupid post in the history of BGP. And there have been some doozies.

As others have mentioned, any official with a sense of awareness will do this. One of many little things that distinguishes a good official from an average one.

Great info. Very good work for putting this list together. I was as surprised as many to see Holy Cross in the Ninth Region list. Hard to believe it's been 10 years and counting for the Tribe considering some of the teams they've had during that span. In the age of seeding, some of the small schools on the list may be destined to remain on the list for a long time.

I missed this one. Hard to top their 89 run for unlikely scenerios. Going strictly off of memory here, but it seems Holy Cross and Holmes were both really good, but were both playing a lot of young kids. Conner was also good that year, but they were playing sophs along with a few upperclassmen. If I remember correctly, Scott did have a pretty experienced group surrounding the freshman Haynes. Seems like they had a set of twins who were seniors , and of course Pelfrey was a senior on this team.

I was going off the top of my head, and this one stood out. Didn't realize they had that good of a record. Seems I remember Holy Cross and CovCath entering the tournament as clearly the teams to beat. Maybe I'm putting more into this one, because this senior class lost Harney to Holy Cross entering high school, making a regional title in 95 seem pretty unlikely at that time.

A few off the top of my head. Simon Kenton in 95 Boone County in 96 Highlands in 01 Newport in 10

Excellent point and I hadn't even noticed until you mentioned it. IMO it's a very solid list of players in DI, but CovCath ran the table against the other eight schools in DI, and yet only had one player among the 12 best at these nine schools? Hmm. I guess Ruthsatz did do a whale of a job. Or maybe CovCath is just so deep that they have four or five more players that would be in the top 20, but none quite able to crack the top 12? You could make an argument either way on this one, and I'd be good with it. In DI, nine big schools are nominating their best for only 12 spots, some good players are going to be left off however you slice it. I think it's a good list, and before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, I'm just answering the question. IF you replace anyone it would be one of the two lowest vote getters (Schreck or White) with Schult from CovCath.

I like it. Obviously like the match up between two of the state's top programs. Like the neutral site of Columbus area a lot as well. Probably had something to do with money, but also I'm sure other factors played into this as well. At the top of the list, I would guess is this allows the game to be played in the evening thus significantly decreasing the chances of the game conflicting with Ohio State and/or Notre Dame football on Saturday afternoon. That's huge for the gate. When Cincy and Cleveland teams play home and home it requires an afternoon date which means a very early morning for one school plus the above conflict. Or, it requires the visiting team to return home sometime around 3 am. Neither option is real good. I wonder if sites like Columbus Crew stadium were looked into before they settled on Coffman?

What no Lakewood St. Edward? Probably scrimmaging them. Not sure how you could come up with a tougher schedule without airfare. With this schedule is it possible X could go 5-5 and be one of the 50 best teams in the country?

Help me out. What grade is this kid? How big is he? What levels does he score from?

Absolutely love the bolded. Great analogy. So true.

I'll take Draud in the first question. He took more shots late in his career, but played basically three years less of varsity than Hatton did to get his points. Draud played some as a freshman, but he sure didn't get many shots that season. Entering their sophomore seasons, Hatton had to have a huge edge in points. Not a knock on Hatton at all but I'll take Draud and it's not as close in my mind as it appears to others. I'll take Ruthsatz over Listerman as well. Andy was a big guard for his time who made a living at the foul line, some stick backs, and drives to the rim that would be hard pressed to be there today. He played four full years of varsity, but I'm still surprised he's the leading scorer in school history. His scoring never stood out. he could guard the ball, guard off the ball, rebound, pass, he was a really nice player. But CCH has has much better scorers who I thought would have been at the top of the list. That said, Ruthsatz can play and score. If I was drafting an all time team, I may make him, or any of the other three guys my number one pick, depending on who I was drafting against and what the order looked liked.

the night Jack scored 69, Draud was a sophomore in college.

Excellent post Walter. I tend to agree with both seasons mentioned. Going back many more moons, seems that in the late 70's Holmes, Newport, and Lloyd were all top 10 teams in the state for most of the year in the AP poll (likely no LIT ratings yet). It may have been NCC or even CovCath instead of Newport, but I think it was the Wildcats. Year would have been either 77 or 78.

Woodward drops to 5-8 with this loss. Woodward is currently ranked 15th in the DII through DIV Cincinnati area coaches poll. They haven't been DI in Ohio in a number of years. I.E. this is not your father's Woodward program. I'm more than a little surprised the game stayed this close. But, I am basing that solely on Woodward's results and ranking. I haven't seen them play, maybe they had some kids hurt or suspended for a time.

I'll take a stab at why the NCC/Holmes game can't be moved to BOKC. I'm relatively sure this is a NCAA D-I basketball only rule, which prevents the university from hosting any regular season or preseason events in their home venue. I'm not going to look the rule up, as the NCAA bylaws are a lot of work, but this is what I seem to remember. Rule was implemented only a couple of years ago at best. NKY fans may remember high school games being played at both the Shoe (UC's home court) and Cintas not that long ago, this rule made those go away. Rule also applies to AAU events, which is why Cintas and the Shoe also recently stopped hosting a couple of those a summer. Schools can still host postseason action, which is why EKU can host the 11th Region, MSU the 16th region, BOKC the 9th region, and UC and Xavier will both host multiple Ohio playoff games as well. Rule is a basketball only rule, which is why X and T can play at the Pizza Box during the regular season. Same reason UC can host Crosstown games and selected regular season games during the year as well. NCAA rules differ from sport to sport and from division to division. This is one example.

First of all, great work on the projections. Very interesting study. Quick question focusing on the bolded. You mentioned that Cooper petitioned to move up last time. If geographic purposes are the only reason that a move up can be granted, why were they moved up? there was a NKY district in both 4A and 5A then as well. I ask simply for clarification purposes, as it seems a lot of teams were noted in your projections as requesting to make moves last time.

The above posts kind of sum the whole argument up in the initial phase. Cost is a factor at many schools state wide. It's going to cost to install the clocks, and it's going to be an on-going cost (or on-going headache) to either pay someone to operate the clock or find a volunteer willing to do it. I'm not sure how they handle the logistics of it in NY, but I did see someone post that the referee could reset the clock. I don't think that's feasible, because the referee with the remote could be out of position to see the ball hit the rim as often as he is in position to see it. And, a wireless set up would add to the initial cost as well. Shot clock or no shot clock really doesn't matter to me. But, as with any new idea, the first thing you need to do is find out if it is even possible. I don't think this idea ever gets past the feasibility study level.

Late to the party, but I promise I didn't look at any of the other posts before taking my guess. Is this 1995?

the Milkhouse and the entire sports complex at Disney opened in 1997. AAU national events of varying age groups have been held their since. I think the 17 and under championships have been in Orlando since that year. I know the 15's and 16's have been at varying sites since that time, but the 16's had settled into Orlando as a more permanent home about 2008ish. 2008ish is also the year the Disney complex completed a second basketball venue, the Jostens Center. It added six courts to the five or six (depending on the layout) already at the Milkhouse. As already mentioned, the facilities at Disney are first rate for both the athletes and the spectators. Not sure how the Expo Center can possibly match that, but maybe I'm wrong. Happy for Louisville, but I'm sure there is a lot more to this news than meets the eye. AAU National Headuarters are less than a mile from Disney property and I believe AAU and Disney are or were corporate partners.

Good win for Dixie. Coaching changes in the GCL South occur less often than a new pope is elected. Every coach in the conference has been there at least 10 years. X may be looking in April.

That number can't be correct, can it? If so, look no further than exhibit A for why Male lost. Are you kidding me, 27 turnovers. Were they passing soccer style (with their feet)?

No details. But, I can say I was surprised by this score. I thought Notre Dame returned a fair amount from last year's state runner-up team. I may be wrong.