^But don't you see how by having the public prayer before the game over the speaker, you're forcing your belief on others whether they want it or not?

Imagine how many folks would be fired up if they said a prayer in Spanish.

^But don't you see how by having the public prayer before the game over the speaker, you're forcing your belief on others whether they want it or not?

 

Yes there are some who would not like it. BUT most want it. How many at Bell wants it vs who don't? I have talked to alot of people about this very thing since this thread has been started. Not one person has said they would oppose it. As a matter of fact I know where the prayer is still said before games.

Yes there are some who would not like it. BUT most want it. How many at Bell wants it vs who don't? I have talked to alot of people about this very thing since this thread has been started. Not one person has said they would oppose it. As a matter of fact I know where the prayer is still said before games.

 

It's not about specifically Bell Co. It's about a public school setting having as part of the public school funded program a public prayer.

 

And no one has an issue with it still being said before games. If someone in the stands wants to stand up and say a prayer aloud, more power to them. The issue many have is that it shouldn't be part of the football game put on by the school.

I brought up abortion when showing how things have changed since I was a boy, it was part of an example and not wanting to go there as one would think. I respect the threads and how they are titled.

 

A simple prayer that is spoken so everyone can hear it is what we should do, but man has changed that, whats the harm, its not a service, simply talking to Jesus for a minute or two. If someone also wanted it spoken in Spanish no big deal at the day of Penacost the disciples where given the gift of tongues.

 

If a Muslim wanted to share a prayer over the same speaker, I would think it would be OK, you have to be fair and tolerant to others. If the players want the prayer, then for crying out loud Pray.

PRAYER OUTLOUD HAD BEEN DONE FOR YEARS, now because of INTOLERANCE from an atheist, NO MORE PRAYER OUTLOUD

 

A short list of other things that had been done for years:

 

Slavery

Poll tax

Jim Crow laws

Extermination of American Indians

The Crusades

Women not able to vote

 

Let us know which of these fine traditions you would like to have seen continued.

 

On second thought...

A short list of other things that had been done for years:

 

Slavery

Poll tax

Jim Crow laws

Extermination of American Indians

The Crusades

Women not able to vote

 

Let us know which of these fine traditions you would like to have seen continued.

 

On second thought...

These are things that God would not condone.. I don't think He has anything against prayer... So apples and oranges..

Yeah someone with tattoos all over their body with awfuls stuff and a lip with 30 rings hanging out, yeah i call them freaks, seems to me they used to be called freaks at the circus and you paid to see the circus freaks. Ones with tattoos adn piercings all over their body. But now what do we have to call them, normal.

 

Man, that stuff's so commonplace nowadays it's passe. What, do you worship with the Good Rev. Shaw Moore or something?

Man, that stuff's so commonplace nowadays it's passe. What, do you worship with the Good Rev. Shaw Moore or something?

 

no, but i dont go around marking my body up either or putting holes in my lips or tongue either.

A short list of other things that had been done for years:

 

Slavery

Poll tax

Jim Crow laws

Extermination of American Indians

The Crusades

Women not able to vote

 

Let us know which of these fine traditions you would like to have seen continued.

 

On second thought...

 

Is that the best you can come up with, I wasnt even born when this stuff happened.

no, but i dont go around marking my body up either or putting holes in my lips or tongue either.

 

If you are going to judge people, do it by what they do and say rather than how they look. It is their body.

I brought up abortion when showing how things have changed since I was a boy, it was part of an example and not wanting to go there as one would think. I respect the threads and how they are titled.

 

A simple prayer that is spoken so everyone can hear it is what we should do, but man has changed that, whats the harm, its not a service, simply talking to Jesus for a minute or two. If someone also wanted it spoken in Spanish no big deal at the day of Penacost the disciples where given the gift of tongues.

 

If a Muslim wanted to share a prayer over the same speaker, I would think it would be OK, you have to be fair and tolerant to others. If the players want the prayer, then for crying out loud Pray.

 

Larry, every player on that field can pray. So can any person in the stands. So can the officials. No one is keeping anyone from praying.

If you are going to judge people, do it by what they do and say rather than how they look. It is their body.

 

I thought it was Gods body and temple.

^Did God ever say piercings and tattoos were wrong?

True Blue, yes thats true you and others have stated that,, the issue here is over the loud speaker so others/players/coaches/cheerleaders/band/press box folks, who might not have praying on their mind will hear it. Jesus as I have stated prayed with others many times out loud, and I even stated this earlier. Man has taken this from us, and I don't think he is pleased with this act.

 

If prayer is not said its no big issue, I'm there to watch a game, but for the folks who want it said over the speaker and its taken away, thats the issue. Man changes things God doesn't change.

 

Ask in Jesus's name John 14:13

 

UK, yes he did. Leviticus 19:8 Paul even talks about women who dress just to be seen.