December 4, 201015 yr If true, I'm a little worried about changing the argument from "they didn't do anything wrong" to "Enes didn't know they did anything wrong" Unlike the Newton case though, I don't see any NEW evidence coming out that would let them change the decision later. So FREE ENES!
December 4, 201015 yr This ridiculous how much longer will this drag out because it's really making us weary who love the Cats! Go Big Blue!
December 4, 201015 yr If true, I'm a little worried about changing the argument from "they didn't do anything wrong" to "Enes didn't know they did anything wrong" Unlike the Newton case though, I don't see any NEW evidence coming out that would let them change the decision later. So FREE ENES! Enes not knowing anything is laughable...but not quite as much as the idea that Cam Newton didn't know anything. I think this most recent move by UK is a Hail Mary, of sorts. They don't see Enes being eligible, so might as well put the NCAA's back to the wall with their own inconsistency.
December 4, 201015 yr Interesting that UK and the NCAA released a joint statement, not just the institution. UK looks like the may try to make the NCAA stand on their decision with the Newton.
December 4, 201015 yr Author Interesting that UK and the NCAA released a joint statement, not just the institution. UK looks like the may try to make the NCAA stand on their decision with the Newton. I agree, the joint statement is making me wonder if the NCAA may even be trying to find a way out of this and let him play without the appeals process.
December 4, 201015 yr Author I was just talking to a couple of parents who's kids go to private schools, after this I see where UK COULD be going with this now, if it's going in this direction now. Do you tell your kids how much everything cost and where the money is coming from? Do all kids that attend private schools (or have tutors) know exactly how much it cost to go to that school? Do they know where all the money is coming from? Some have other family members such as grandparents, aunts and uncles paying for it as well and the kids do not know, or do not know how much each person is paying. Some had scholarships and have no idea if the people that awarded the scholarship gave their parents the money to pay the school or if it was directly paid to the school. Heck, most kids don't even know how much their car insurance is, they just know it's paid for in full or in part by reletives, with the kid paying either nothing or a part of it. Even though the Kanters were trying to do everything right, as a 16 year old kid, did Enes know that the club paid his parents the money to pay out for his education? Or did Enes think that the education was paid directly from the club? I do not think a 16 year old kid would know. AGAIN, the NCAA said the schooling being paid for was okay, it's just how the money was distributed. So, in light of the Newton decision, setting a precedent, asking to resubmit the case to the NCAA would make sense, and the fact that the NCAA accepted UK to resubmit COULD make it look like a good thing for Kanter.
December 4, 201015 yr I was just talking to a couple of parents who's kids go to private schools, after this I see where UK COULD be going with this now, if it's going in this direction now. Do you tell your kids how much everything cost and where the money is coming from? Do all kids that attend private schools (or have tutors) know exactly how much it cost to go to that school? Do they know where all the money is coming from? Some have other family members such as grandparents, aunts and uncles paying for it as well and the kids do not know, or do not know how much each person is paying. Some had scholarships and have no idea if the people that awarded the scholarship gave their parents the money to pay the school or if it was directly paid to the school. Heck, most kids don't even know how much their car insurance is, they just know it's paid for in full or in part by reletives, with the kid paying either nothing or a part of it. Even though the Kanters were trying to do everything right, as a 16 year old kid, did Enes know that the club paid his parents the money to pay out for his education? Or did Enes think that the education was paid directly from the club? I do not think a 16 year old kid would know. AGAIN, the NCAA said the schooling being paid for was okay, it's just how the money was distributed. So, in light of the Newton decision, setting a precedent, asking to resubmit the case to the NCAA would make sense, and the fact that the NCAA accepted UK to resubmit COULD make it look like a good thing for Kanter. Those are pretty much my thoughts. Even if Enes knew money was being received (surely he did), its extremely possible that he had no idea exactly how much and to whom it was being paid. If the new standard is if Enes KNEW his amateurism was jeopardized, I think there's an easy argument that he had no idea.
December 4, 201015 yr Spot on, SG. I was just talking to a couple of parents who's kids go to private schools, after this I see where UK COULD be going with this now, if it's going in this direction now. Do you tell your kids how much everything cost and where the money is coming from? Do all kids that attend private schools (or have tutors) know exactly how much it cost to go to that school? Do they know where all the money is coming from? Some have other family members such as grandparents, aunts and uncles paying for it as well and the kids do not know, or do not know how much each person is paying. Some had scholarships and have no idea if the people that awarded the scholarship gave their parents the money to pay the school or if it was directly paid to the school. Heck, most kids don't even know how much their car insurance is, they just know it's paid for in full or in part by reletives, with the kid paying either nothing or a part of it. Even though the Kanters were trying to do everything right, as a 16 year old kid, did Enes know that the club paid his parents the money to pay out for his education? Or did Enes think that the education was paid directly from the club? I do not think a 16 year old kid would know. AGAIN, the NCAA said the schooling being paid for was okay, it's just how the money was distributed. So, in light of the Newton decision, setting a precedent, asking to resubmit the case to the NCAA would make sense, and the fact that the NCAA accepted UK to resubmit COULD make it look like a good thing for Kanter.
December 4, 201015 yr I agree, the joint statement is making me wonder if the NCAA may even be trying to find a way out of this and let him play without the appeals process. That's what it looks like to me as well.
December 4, 201015 yr I can't stand UK but I think this kid deserves to play and I hope he is eventually ruled eligible.
December 4, 201015 yr I can't stand UK but I think this kid deserves to play and I hope he is eventually ruled eligible. I'm glad you feel that way. I hope other rival fans share your feelings. I'm curious as to why you feel that way. You've made your feelings toward UK very obvious on BGP.
December 4, 201015 yr I'm glad you feel that way. I hope other rival fans share your feelings. I'm curious as to why you feel that way. You've made your feelings toward UK very obvious on BGP. Because from everything I've read they did all they could to try and stay within the rules of the NCAA. The kid obviously wants to experience college and playing college basketball. WVU went through a similar thing last year with Deniz Kilicli.
December 4, 201015 yr Because from everything I've read they did all they could to try and stay within the rules of the NCAA. The kid obviously wants to experience college and playing college basketball. WVU went through a similar thing last year with Deniz Kilicli. :thumb: Good to hear.
December 4, 201015 yr After watching the UNC game, I've changed my mind. Right or wrong, get him eligible:lol:
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