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So what is your theory on WWI or WWII?

 

You young ones crack me up. Keep watching MTV. :lol::lol::lol:

 

Let everyone else live and protect and prosper.

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Alright, so here's my take on the whole situation.

 

First off I know there are many websites stating evidence of a hoax, and I know that there are just as many debunking the hoax but even then how do we know what the truth is.

 

NO ONE actually seen those men on the moon and I mean no one. Unless you were on the moon with them then I don't want to hear anyone say they seen it happen. Does everyone really believe everything they see on tv? Yes the Apollo took off from the ground but that doesn't mean it actually landed on the moon does it?

 

In the years of prep and actually launch date it cost around $25 billion for the Apollo project, that's a pretty steep price just to land on a rock before the Soviet Union. Since that time NASA has planned 3 more trips since then and all have been canceled due to lack of money. I find it hard to believe that NASA couldn't come up with some sponsor money and all of these television deals to help generate the money. It seems funny that they announce this stuff about going and the closer it gets they cancel.

 

Also, the Soviet Union had launched the spy satellite and Americans freaked out so the American government put together this whole elaborate hoax of landing on the moon to try and "unite Americans" together and it actually worked.

 

I'm going to talk about the picture evidence now, and I know there are many testimonials debunking each picture.

 

*There should have been a larger crater in the moon than what there was. I know the moon is a giant rock but the blast from the shuttle should have made some kind of dent.

 

*Why is the flag waving for? There is no gravity, nor wind on the moon. I read one thing that said the astronauts touched the flag but in all the videos I've watched they didn't "touch" it after they spiked it in the ground. The ripple effect would not have been that smooth.

 

 

Now onto the whole "we taped over the moon landing". Are you serious NASA, you all actually taped over the only original video footage from the Apollo mission. This just provides more controversy for NASA that this happens.

 

What about Buzz refusing to swear on a bible that he actually walked on the moon. Now I know some of you will say that he didn't have to prove anything but if I landed on the moon and I knew I did then I'd have absolutely no problem with putting my hand on the bible and saying so.

 

 

 

I'll have more later but this is it for now. I'm not saying we could never land on the moon but I am saying it's hard to believe that we did in 1969, I don't believe the technology was there and I believe it was a quick setup by the government to lower the concerns put on by the Soviet Union.

 

One way I look at is this, if it was a hoax and with all the people involved, why has no one in the hoax (coverup) ever written a book to get rich? It is like the guy who robbed a bank, he will tell on himself, he just has to brag to someone. You just cannot get 100% silence from such a large group of people, as with those who worked on this project.

I think one reason we have these conspiracy theories popping up about various historical events (the JFK assassination, the government cover up at Roswell, NM, etc) is that people can make money from books and other sources if they can convince enough people of a conspiracy by spinning the info and telling only one side of the story. As long as their books, magazines, and videos sell then we will continue to have people pushing the theories. I'd be will to bet half of the people who write the books and push the theories don't even believe what they write or say themselves. It's all about money, not the truth.

 

I'm really disappointed with the History Channel when it comes to some of these conspiracy theories. They should do a better job of weeding out the nonsense shows and sticking to actual history programs, or change the name of their channel to something else. I saw part of a program a few nights back about the JFK assassination and one would have thought that LBJ was part of a conspiracy to kill Kennedy by the conclusion of the show. Total nonsense. Also when they show Roswell material, they only show one side of the story, interviewing people that believe there was a government coverup but rarely using anyone to challenge the theorist's. I know that they are not the one's that produced the programs but they have decided to use them. The History Channel has to do a better job than that.

I think one reason we have these conspiracy theories popping up about various historical events (the JFK assassination, the government cover up at Roswell, NM, etc) is that people can make money from books and other sources if they can convince enough people of a conspiracy by spinning the info and telling only one side of the story. As long as their books, magazines, and videos sell then we will continue to have people pushing the theories. I'd be will to bet half of the people who write the books and push the theories don't even believe what they write or say themselves. It's all about money, not the truth.

 

I'm really disappointed with the History Channel when it comes to some of these conspiracy theories. They should do a better job of weeding out the nonsense shows and sticking to actual history programs, or change the name of their channel to something else. I saw part of a program a few nights back about the JFK assassination and one would have thought that LBJ was part of a conspiracy to kill Kennedy by the conclusion of the show. Total nonsense. Also when they show Roswell material, they only show one side of the story, interviewing people that believe there was a government coverup but rarely using anyone to challenge the theorist's. I know that they are not the one's that produced the programs but they have decided to use them. The History Channel has to do a better job than that.

 

I agree with you entirely about the, as I call it, Hysteria Channel. Their programs SHOULD be based on facts, not designed to promote conspiracy and hysteria. My favorite ones are the 2012 Doomsday ones. :lol: The problem is that, due to their position, they get people to buy into the hoaxes.

They can't catch them crossing the border from Mexico how could they catch one from outerspace?

:lol: Nice.

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One way I look at is this, if it was a hoax and with all the people involved, why has no one in the hoax (coverup) ever written a book to get rich? It is like the guy who robbed a bank, he will tell on himself, he just has to brag to someone. You just cannot get 100% silence from such a large group of people, as with those who worked on this project.

 

That is exactly what I feel about the JFK assassination. After 47 years one would think someone would have fessed up by now.

I agree with you entirely about the, as I call it, Hysteria Channel. Their programs SHOULD be based on facts, not designed to promote conspiracy and hysteria. My favorite ones are the 2012 Doomsday ones. :lol: The problem is that, due to their position, they get people to buy into the hoaxes.

 

 

History, in general, is not based entirely on fact; it is subject to those who record it and their opinions of the event they witnessed or the events they "heard" about.

History, in general, is not based entirely on fact; it is subject to those who record it and their opinions of the event they witnessed or the events they "heard" about.

 

No, history IS fact. The interpretations of those of events is what taints history.

No, history IS fact. The interpretations of those of events is what taints history.

 

 

I am speaking to the subject of history. Remember the old saying the winner writes the history.

Even if there are a couple that chose the wrong poll option by mistake, it boggles my mind that 10% of the BGP voters don't believe that we walked on the moon in 1969.

 

Then again, I read a lot of stuff on here. Maybe I shouldn't be so shocked.

Very entertaining thread. Anyone watch " Conspiracy Theory " with Jesse Ventura on TruTV? I DVR'd all of them awhile back and they are very entertaining. The shows were very cheesy but they do bring up some interesting theories.

 

Season one

Episode Title Original Airdate

101 (1) "HAARP" December 2, 2009

Ventura visits HAARP (the High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) in Gakona, Alaska to uncover the truth behind rumors that it is being used as a weather modification weapon, an instrument for mind control, or both.

102 (2) "9/11" December 9, 2009

Ventura investigates the rumors of a possible cover-up of the black box recordings from the airliners involved in the September 11th Attacks which could contain evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.

103 (3) "Global Warming" December 16, 2009

Ventura looks at some of the recently uncovered evidence that man-made global warming is an elitist scam, and the money trail leads him to the doorstep of an elusive billionaire and a former UN adviser residing in Shanghai.

104 (4) "Big Brother" December 23, 2009

Ventura looks into how far the U.S. Government has gone, in the name of national security, to keep an eye on its citizens–including contracting private companies to spy on people and giving special incentives to InfraGard members who report suspicious activity.

105 (5) "Secret Societies" December 30, 2009

Ventura infiltrates the Bilderberg Group–a very secretive, annual meeting of elitists who gather in luxury hotels, under heavy security, and supposedly plan the strategies for world domination.

106 (6) "Manchurian Candidate" January 6, 2010

Ventura investigates rumors that the CIA has restarted the project to turn ordinary citizens into programmed assassins, and meets a man who claims to be a real-life Manchurian Candidate.

107 (7) "Apocalypse 2012" January 13, 2010

Many believe the world is heading for disaster in 2012 and Ventura looks into rumors that the U.S. Government has a doomsday plan for saving the elite while leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves.

You state about this:

 

It's a simply matter of physics and remembering that on the moon that there is no atmosphere, so the motion of an object does not have air resistance to work against, meaning that it doesn't slow down like it does here on Earth.

 

This comes from NASA's website but it tells more of a simple explanation: Not every waving flag needs a breeze -- at least not in space. When astronauts were planting the flagpole they rotated it back and forth to better penetrate the lunar soil (anyone who's set a blunt tent-post will know how this works). So of course the flag waved! Unfurling a piece of rolled-up cloth with stored angular momentum will naturally result in waves and ripples -- no breeze required!

 

 

 

I still disagree with both and although I don't have the facts YET (going out to eat) I still believe that it COULD have been staged. It's fairly simple process and Americans will believe just about anything. I believe in conspiracies and you believe we went to the moon. See how that worked.

Take a physics class man. Newton- an object in motion will stay in motion, the thing is probably still waving to this day.

I've thought about this a lot, and even though the conspiracy theories sound good, I feel we landed on the moon. What seals the deal for me is the fact we went back numerous times. If we had only went that one time, then yes, I would say it could have been staged. But there would be no need for them to go multiple times unless they were actually conducting tests and experiments.

I know a friend whose husband accidentally taped over their wedding ceremony. I guess that she is not really married. :lol:

 

To clarify the issue of the tapes, many, many copies were made of the original film, so that it would never be lost. Some, and I repeat some, of the original footage found its way into the 'recycle bin' as the type of tape that was used to record it became rarer, due to changing instrumentation.

 

I saw this on Eveybody Loves Raymond!!!