Alright, so here's my take on the whole situation.

 

First off I know there are many websites stating evidence of a hoax, and I know that there are just as many debunking the hoax but even then how do we know what the truth is.

 

NO ONE actually seen those men on the moon and I mean no one. Unless you were on the moon with them then I don't want to hear anyone say they seen it happen. Does everyone really believe everything they see on tv? Yes the Apollo took off from the ground but that doesn't mean it actually landed on the moon does it?

 

In the years of prep and actually launch date it cost around $25 billion for the Apollo project, that's a pretty steep price just to land on a rock before the Soviet Union. Since that time NASA has planned 3 more trips since then and all have been canceled due to lack of money. I find it hard to believe that NASA couldn't come up with some sponsor money and all of these television deals to help generate the money. It seems funny that they announce this stuff about going and the closer it gets they cancel.

 

Also, the Soviet Union had launched the spy satellite and Americans freaked out so the American government put together this whole elaborate hoax of landing on the moon to try and "unite Americans" together and it actually worked.

 

I'm going to talk about the picture evidence now, and I know there are many testimonials debunking each picture.

 

*There should have been a larger crater in the moon than what there was. I know the moon is a giant rock but the blast from the shuttle should have made some kind of dent.

 

*Why is the flag waving for? There is no gravity, nor wind on the moon. I read one thing that said the astronauts touched the flag but in all the videos I've watched they didn't "touch" it after they spiked it in the ground. The ripple effect would not have been that smooth.

 

 

Now onto the whole "we taped over the moon landing". Are you serious NASA, you all actually taped over the only original video footage from the Apollo mission. This just provides more controversy for NASA that this happens.

 

What about Buzz refusing to swear on a bible that he actually walked on the moon. Now I know some of you will say that he didn't have to prove anything but if I landed on the moon and I knew I did then I'd have absolutely no problem with putting my hand on the bible and saying so.

 

 

 

I'll have more later but this is it for now. I'm not saying we could never land on the moon but I am saying it's hard to believe that we did in 1969, I don't believe the technology was there and I believe it was a quick setup by the government to lower the concerns put on by the Soviet Union.

 

Actually Mythbusters did a segment on this, they even went to Nasa to the vaccuum they have there. Because there is no air or gravity, if you move it at all it will wave like that or something like that. You will have to watch it, I can't explain it fully.

Actually Mythbusters did a segment on this, they even went to Nasa to the vaccuum they have there. Because there is no air or gravity, if you move it at all it will wave like that or something like that. You will have to watch it, I can't explain it fully.

 

The 1/6th gravity causes it to "wave" longer after it was touched than if it were on Earth.

 

I'm sorry, but this is ludicrous. Our government can't keep a secret to save its life and I'm supposed to believe they perpetrated the greatest hoax in human history and nobody fessed up for 40 years? I'm no scientist, but I know enough about physics and astronomy to know that not only was this possible then; we did it several times over. For crying out loud, if the United States made a serious effort at renewing space exploration (as it should), we'd be on Mars in less than 15 years.

 

Furthermore, to suggest that this never happened is an insult to the memory of those pioneers in aviation and space exploration who gave their lives to free mankind from the chains tying us to the surface of the Earth.

 

As Carl Sagan once said: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your theory flies in the face of not only 41 years of historical documentation, but the basics of physics, all science and the testimonial claims of countless NASA officials and affiliated employees. The evidence you've presented doesn't seem to pass the test.

Edited July 21, 201016 yr by Getslow

Side bar...anyone else singin' a little REM right about now?

OK...put your colendar hats with the tin foil lining back on and resume conversation.

Side bar...anyone else singin' a little REM right about now?

OK...put your colendar hats with the tin foil lining back on and resume conversation.

I think its a hoax and if it isn't why havent we sent anybody to the moon lately?

I think its a hoax and if it isn't why havent we sent anybody to the moon lately?

 

Ask your zero-foresight Congressmen who keep cutting NASA's funding.

The 1/6th gravity causes it to "wave" longer after it was touched than if it were on Earth.

 

No, the lesser gravity is not the main factor. It is the lack of air resistance.

 

Consider this analogy. Drop a bowling ball from waist height. Do the same think while in a 4 ft deep swimming pool. The one in the pool slows down more quickly, due to water being more dense, thus more resistant to the motion of the bowling ball, than the air. Now, imagine the flag pole being moved back and forth by the astronaut that is "planting it," rotating it. Once his hand leaves the flag, it will continue to move. On Earth, air resistance creates the friction that slows the motion down. On the moon, there is no air resistance, so the only friction that is occurring is where the flag is attached to the poll. The flag does come to a stop, but considerably later than it would do so on Earth. It's basic physics...an application of Newton's First Law of Motion. If one watches lengthy footage of the time spent on the moon, they'll notice that the flags do not move again, unless touched (even incidentally) by an astronaut. Funny, for all of those "wind" believers...it was only "windy" when the flag was being planted. Then it is completely calm after that. :lol:

I think its a hoax and if it isn't why havent we sent anybody to the moon lately?

 

And I think that the Eagles produced some pretty good music, but Jim Schue will disagree.

 

Taste in music is about opinions. Whether or not something happened is about fact.

 

I'm sorry, but this is ludicrous. Our government can't keep a secret to save its life and I'm supposed to believe they perpetrated the greatest hoax in human history and nobody fessed up for 40 years? I'm no scientist, but I know enough about physics and astronomy to know that not only was this possible then; we did it several times over. For crying out loud, if the United States made a serious effort at renewing space exploration (as it should), we'd be on Mars in less than 15 years.

 

Furthermore, to suggest that this never happened is an insult to the memory of those pioneers in aviation and space exploration who gave their lives to free mankind from the chains tying us to the surface of the Earth.

 

As Carl Sagan once said: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your theory flies in the face of not only 41 years of historical documentation, but the basics of physics, all science and the testimonial claims of countless NASA officials and affiliated employees. The evidence you've presented doesn't seem to pass the test.

 

Very well said. :thumb:

Great stuff. I never thought I'd see a John McEnroe reference in an Apollo 11 thread.:thumb:

Just a quick observation. With all the technology we have, why hasn't some someone done an article with great pictures taken by one the our giant telescopes here on earth showing the flag, lunar rover etc... I think it would be interesting to see the condition of these historical artifacts some 40+ years later.:confused:

President Bush looked the other way on 9/11 so we could invade Iraq.

 

Its unreal how many people actually believe that one.

Just a quick observation. With all the technology we have, why hasn't some someone done an article with great pictures taken by one the our giant telescopes here on earth showing the flag, lunar rover etc... I think it would be interesting to see the condition of these historical artifacts some 40+ years later.:confused:

 

Wonder if its still waving lol

I believe the Government lies to us every day. I find it impossible to believe they would be able to pull off something of this magnitude though. Landing on the moon and 9/11 are so large scale that it would take thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people to cover up entirely. Also, if they are covering up something of this magnitude eventually enough hard facts would come out that it would be crazy to attempt in the first place.