EZ Living Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Talk about not putting a lot of stock into what people say.....ERA for a reliever is one of the most meaningless stats that there is. Herrera has been used as a situational pitcher all year, when he doesn't get it done lots of times the other relievers prevent his baserunners from scoring so his ERA doesn't go up. Owings has been used almost exclusively to start and finish innings so he really controls his own fate as far as ERA. Throwing all that out the window here's what was really relevant....Daniel Herrera has allowed hitters to hit at a .343 clip and righthanders to hit .341 against him, so he stinks equally bad no matter what handed batter was coming up. Meanwhile Owings has allowed hitters a .215 average overall and righthanders a .127 average. With 2 righthanders up to lead off the inning who do the numbers say should have been out there? I'd be interested to see you try to support your position except for your opinion that you don't trust Owings....You said in your earlier post that a manager should have confidence in the relievers in his bullpen so shouldn't that be true of Owings? And if that is true shouldn't you go with the better numbers? Well done, thanks for the numbers. I wish they would consider Lecure for long relief and move Owings to shorter relief, maybe not setup but in Rosario's role possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Votto has looked real bad thus far this series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJAlltheWay24 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I'm not one to gripe to much about the team not playing as well as I would like, but their base running hasn't been solid tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoesGym Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Well done, thanks for the numbers. I wish they would consider Lecure for long relief and move Owings to shorter relief, maybe not setup but in Rosario's role possibly. You're welcome. But don't expect UKMF to acknowledge them. He prefers to go on his opinion, even when faced with a pile of statistics that show it to be incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmderringer10 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 That's the kind of call Dusty needs to get tossed after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mathemagician Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Two down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Cain can deal. I think that's his 3rd CG in his last 4 starts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJAlltheWay24 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Tough game for LeCure, and not do to poor play. He goes out there and pitches pretty well again and just can't get any run support behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelCrazy Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 . If Herrera gets the outs there, no one says a word. It wasn't like the hits were ropes either, two dinks that found open space. The 1st hit that Herrera gave up was a solid liner into left for a single from Freddy Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 David Weathers line 1 is ringing please pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Cain can deal. I think that's his 3rd CG in his last 4 starts... He has only allowed over 2 ER is 1 of his last 10 games. Last 4 games 34 IP 1 ER. :lol: Pretty good I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Dodgers take 1-0 lead in 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Cards lose again. Stay tied for 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malachicrunch Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 A "mal" sighting... I have tried to carry the banner of negativity for you all season and then you go and post something like this. What has come over you? lol I have always tried to spin my comments as reality as opposed to negativity. I had been a proponent of turning over the roster, which they have. I like the players on this team. I like the aggressive style they play with, and I am enjoying their success. So, if I stick to what I think is reality, with the club, I like them, and barring injury, I feel they have a shot at the playoffs. If not this season then sooner than later. Something that has not been a reality in Cincy in over a decade. Sorry if I have disappointed the masses with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpatbaseball Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Shake up in the bullpen is necessary at this point. Starting pitching is fantastic. We have to put up some wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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