Do you realize how many kids break this rule every year?

 

Do you you not find it hypocritical to accept transfers for athletic purposes, but fight this one so strongly because it rubs you the wrong way?:confused:

 

Which is what I was trying to get at earlier in this thread. The kid in question was from Lincoln County, but when he leaves Danville fights it all the way.

 

Coaches' egos are fragile.

A text from a teen holds that much water? Or is it more because of the Danville people pressing the issue?

 

I wouldn't know the answer to those questions.

If the transfer was for football reasons (and seems it was), I'll never understand taking the risk of all of this. Seems the young man is a high profile player, I'm sure he would have been noticed at the next level. As long as you're lacing them up on Friday night, It should not matter what color the jersey is. JMHO

I wouldn't know the answer to those questions.

 

I have heard it said that if the "sending" school does not object to the transfer that the KHSAA does not investigate and will approve the transfer. Is that true?

I have heard it said that if the "sending" school does not object to the transfer that the KHSAA does not investigate and will approve the transfer. Is that true?

 

No it is not true from what I know and understand.

 

I know that some schools and people want the rule to be changed so that if the sending school does not object to eligibility, the kid is automatically eligible. As an attorney I have three problems with that change: 1. you will create very different standards for talented kids transferring and not so talented kids transferring, which is unfair to the talented kids; 2. you could have two kids transferring under the exact same circumstances. A kid coming from a sending school with a principal having a lenient philosophy on transfers is approved, yet a kid transferring from a sending school with a principal tough on transfers isn't approved. That inconsistency creates confusion as to when transfers are acceptable; and 3. a reason not considered by the school people advocating such change, the principal making the decision as to whether to approve or disapprove the transfer is going to find him/herself getting personally sued and his or her school getting sued quite often when they disapprove a transfer. The change in my opinion, would be a disaster for all involved.

Which is what I was trying to get at earlier in this thread. The kid in question was from Lincoln County, but when he leaves Danville fights it all the way.

 

Coaches' egos are fragile.

 

If he didn't participate in varsity sports at Lincoln County, you are comparing apples and ostriches.

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I'm with ya sista! :lol:

 

In theory they could say any kid who plays sports is doing it for athletic reasons.

 

I disagree on this.

 

In regards to Harp signing a statement, Is he supposed to lie???? I mean when an investigation occurs it is investigated and you make a statement, was he supposed to lie? Come on people wake up.

 

Well said.

 

We could end all of these arguments by simply allowing all kids to make 1 unjustified transfer during their high school career. Adults are allowed to change jobs freely. Why shouldn't kids be allowed to do the same? IMO, forcing kids to stay at schools that just aren't working out for them is bad for the kids, the schools and the communities. They're not adults. They shouldn't be penalized for one bad decision or situation out of their control (coaching changes, etc).

 

Also IMO, the effect of this rule change would generally be minimal. Sure every once in a while a team somewhere might get overly stacked because of it, but most kids hate disruption & wouldn't take advantage of it.

 

No way, No how this would work!

 

I can see now...we could call it the High School Transfer Draft! :laugh::laugh:

Boyle’s filings to the KHSAA state Dunn went from living with his mother, Regina Kavanaugh, who lives in the Danville school district, to living with his father Wilber Dunn, who lives in Boyle’s district. Even though the couple were never married, Dunn’s transfer still falls under the divorced parents exception.

 

That is not my interpretation. My interpretation is that IF a divorce occurs in the course of the year and the student's post divorce guardian has an address in a new district...the student will be ruled eligible.

 

Another note...if he transfers back to the Danville and never played a varsity sport for Boyle...would he be fine to play at Danville his Sr year.:idunno:

I wouldn't know the answer to those questions.

 

Well it appears the "athletic gain" portion has been determined due to a text he sent to a former teammate. Technically, he is playing by the KHSAA's rules when having two parents in two different districts. I just didn't know how well that would hold up in this day and age of every teen having unlimited texting sending out who knows what. Apparently in this case it was enough for the KHSAA.

Why not compromise on this? A 1 year penalty seems very harsh when an athlete only has four years of eligibility to play with. Why not penalize the transfer w/ a 5 game suspension to include 2 district games. That way the athelete will still be able to play half the season, or more, and still serve some type of punishment for an athletics transfer.

A text from a teen holds that much water? Or is it more because of the Danville people pressing the issue?

 

In the comments in the article, there was mention that the student newspaper did a story on Dunn where he blatantly talked about coming to Boyle Co. to win a championship. It sounds like Dunn was pretty open about why he was transferring. Unfortunately, it sounds like he stuck it to himself.

Edited February 24, 201016 yr by Voice of Reason

If he didn't participate in varsity sports at Lincoln County, you are comparing apples and ostriches.

 

Understood and I was not really trying to comment on the "eligiblity" aspect of the case, as much as, I was trying to point out the ebb and flow of athletes to/from Danville. Maybe Danville has a problem with this transfer because it is "against KHSAA rules" or maybe Danville really doesn't believe it is more blessed to give than receive.

I'm with ya sista! :lol:

 

 

 

I disagree on this.

 

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Any known athlete who changes schools is going to accused of doing it for athletic gain.

Why not compromise on this? A 1 year penalty seems very harsh when an athlete only has four years of eligibility to play with. Why not penalize the transfer w/ a 5 game suspension to include 2 district games. That way the athelete will still be able to play half the season, or more, and still serve some type of punishment for an athletics transfer.

 

I like this. Very creative.

I don't think you know what you are talking about here.

 

He can't just move back and undo the transfer. He is now enrolled at Boyle County and moving back to Danville would be a NEW transfer. He can't just call no-takes and go right back as if he never transfered at all. He is either enrolled at Boyle Co or not, there is no in between, that's like saying someone is a little bit pregnant.

 

Now, if he transfers from Boyle Co to Danville, it would be a NEW transfer and I think as a new transfer he would have to apply for a waiver and meet the exceptions in Bylaw 6 in order to now be eligible at Danville.

 

Unfortunately for the student, IMO Section 3 of that Bylaw would negate the waiver because no waiver is granted if the student transfers because he "left the school under penalty which would have resulted in his ineligibility at the sending school". Not to mention it would be pretty hard to argue that this transfer back to Danville is not athletically motiviated.

 

It is unfortunate for the kid, but it looks to me like he will either be eligible at Boyle Co or nowhere. That is the chance you take when you make a hasty move without understanding the transfer rules fully. And if he ends up missing is senior year, the blame is not on the KHSAA.

 

Question on "transferring" back to Danville - if Dunn has never played a varsity sport at Boyle County, then doesn't that mean he has no issues concerning playing for Danville next year? I believe if you have never played a varsity sport at a school, you can transfer to another school any time you want and not have it impact your eligibility.