No matter how much I hate him, I can't deny that. (BTW, their record in games since 1988 with an 11+ point lead is 143-1-1, right? That's one of the most ridiculous statistics I've ever seen).

 

 

I don't know if that speaks more to the defense for protecting the lead or the offense; but it is one sick stat.

 

If I heard it once, I heard it a thousand times during the runup to the Super Bowl - Ben extends the play. He is pretty daggone good at staying upright and making something happen.

I don't care for Big Ben at all but but he normally does enough to win and that is what matters.

 

Congrats Steeler fans!

I'll be honest on this one. I liked him in college but haven't liked him with the Steelers. I feel like he was one of the most overrated QB's in history. He was flat out bad the 1st Super Bowl and road the Bus litteraly.

I still think he has the luxery most QB's don't have in a running game and a top defense every year.

This year I honestly think he grew up a lot. He started the year much like every year trying to do too much and forcing the ball. To me now he has learned to keep the play alive but not turn the ball over as much which makes his team hard to beat becasue their defense is so good. He also doesn't have the running game he did although it's not bad. The Oline is not very good in pass pro either.

I've always felt like he was REALLY overrated but I give him props for the final drive last night. What makes him so good IMO is that he is so hard to bring down. He keeps things alive and his eyes down the field. Pitt got a lot of calls to extend drives and made a huge difference in the game. Ben also did a lot to keep drives alive. The play he scrambled left, rolled back to the right then threw back was huge.

I stand by him being overrated in the past. No doubt in my mind. I think he really grew a lot this year. I give him a lot of props. Without him and the officials I don't think the Steelers win the Super Bowl yesterday I thought he should have been co MVP.

It's not pretty but some how he finds ways to win games. Part of it is being on great times and other parts are him being pretty clutch at times.

I hate Pittsburg.

Pittsburgh just called, they said the feeling's mutual.

I have always liked Ben. I have no clue why. :lol:

Pittsburgh just called, they said the feeling's mutual.

 

:eek:

You have an OH kid leading your franchise.

He's got at keeping plays alive and finding someone open even when theres nothing there, but honestly his numbers in his two super bowl arent great. I give him credit for the last drive yesterday but thats about all hes done.

I am not sure who the loss is to, but the tie was Atlanta. We went to that game and it was crazy.

 

I think that loss is to the Bengals a few years ago....

I'm not a huge Big Ben fan, but I think he's a solid quarterback. He's still not an elite one, but he's had a great career thus far and he's a warrior.

 

He makes a lot of plays, although some of the things he does are very unorthodox and borderline stupid. Personally, I like them, although I think it's a horrible decision when he throws across his body like he does.

 

I think Big Ben is a solid QB. He is a good leader and he's in a great system. He doesn't have to put up big numbers - just manage the game. It's the perfect situation for Big Ben, and he has done an excellent job thus far.

My dad has said since his Jr. year in college he will be one of the greatest. Not sure how he knew but he looks pretty smart now.

He's got at keeping plays alive and finding someone open even when theres nothing there, but honestly his numbers in his two super bowl arent great. I give him credit for the last drive yesterday but thats about all hes done.

 

But he did it time after time this season when it was needed. Football is not baseball, it is not a purely stat game.

Big Ben is the real deal. It just stinks he plays for the Steelers but I think he will the best QB to come out of that draft in 2004.

Big Ben is the real deal. It just stinks he plays for the Steelers but I think he will the best QB to come out of that draft in 2004.

 

I realize that you hate the Steelers, and that is your right. I appreciate the statement, I know from personal experience, it was hard to say it:thumb:.