May 15, 200818 yr Some interesting stats on Dunner that you haters won't like. http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008805110428 HIT DUNN NO. 2 It is simply untrue that Adam Dunn (below right) is not a good 2-hole hitter. Though conventional wisdom says a 2-hole hitter must make contact and spray the ball around, the facts don't support it. It's more important to get on base because that's what best leads to scoring runs. Hitting behind the runner might look good and fit "the book" approach, but sac-bunting and swinging away are a break-even proposition. Look at it this way: Whether to sac-bunt or swing away is a matter of managing risk. If you sac-bunt, you're less likely to get on base, but the outs you generate are not as bad because you advance the runner. If you swing away, you're more likely to get on base and advance the runner additional bases, but you're also more likely to generate a "bad" out that doesn't advance the runner or, even worse, results in a double play. On balance, sac-bunting and swinging away average out, just as Dunn's approach to hitting averages out. He makes considerably less contact than the average 2-hole hitter (he's high-risk), but he's high-reward because of all the bombs he hits - and he has an excellent on-base average, which means that even though he's whiffing a lot, he more than offsets it with his high on-base average from walking a lot. At No. 2, a .380 OBA guy who strikes out and is slow is better than a fast .315 OBA guy. Especially if Mr. .380 OBA hits 40 bombs. Batting Dunn No. 2 gets him to the plate 50 more times in a season than batting him No. 5. And why is such a big deal made about the 2-hole hitter advancing the runner, anyway? Last year, the Reds' No. 2 hitter came to bat more than half the time (56 percent) with nobody on base. Did you know that over the last two seasons Dunn has been right in line with the league average in terms of advancing runners from first base? (League average: 40 percent; Dunn, 39.7 percent) The only Red with a comparable number of opportunities who advanced runners at a significantly higher rate was Encarnacion (45 percent), while Phillips - who might look more like a traditional 2-hole hitter to some - actually has advanced runners at a lower rate (38 percent) than Dunn. And did you know that in only 35 more at-bats than Dunn with a runner on first, Phillips has hit into 24 more double plays? Can't hit into double plays when you strike out...
May 15, 200818 yr Pitching Agree! The only thing Dunn knows about pitching is that he can't hit it.:lol:
May 15, 200818 yr Agree! The only thing Dunn knows about pitching is that he can't hit it.:lol:Ouch....
May 17, 200818 yr I think Adam is starting to heat up.... The HR's are starting to come. Give the guy a break. He will hit his 40to45 this year. I dont know who you think is going to replace that. I also dont know whose jersey you think the kids are going to want. I coach a youth team, and Dunn is 3/4 of the teams favorite player. I really hope they keep him. Then again it could be personal, I really like his seats behind home plate. If he is gone so is my hook-up.
May 17, 200818 yr People are too hard on Dunn. Who do they think they are? People hate on him all the time and when he does do something well then the haters are all gone. Sign Dunn long term!!!
May 17, 200818 yr :thumb: People are too hard on Dunn. Who do they think they are? People hate on him all the time and when he does do something well then the haters are all gone. Sign Dunn long term!!!:thumb:
May 17, 200818 yr Call me crazy but the last week or so when I have watched Dunn bat I get the feeling that he's looking for a walk. Does anyone else feel that way?
May 17, 200818 yr :dancingpa REDS WIN !!! :dancingpa I'm going tomorrow. I hope 44 ain't lookin' for a walk tomorrow ! I could be crazy ??!! :confused:
May 18, 200818 yr Wonder where all the Dunn haters are now after his walk off bomb today? Its amazing they are not saying he should have hit it all the way out.
May 18, 200818 yr I personally am a HUGE Adam Dunn supporter. Sure..as the telecast said today he strikes out, walks, or hits a homerun 50% of the time. But the guy is talented and is still a young talent. But, I just don't think he's worth the money the Reds will have to spend on him...
May 18, 200818 yr Author I personally am a HUGE Adam Dunn supporter. Sure..as the telecast said today he strikes out, walks, or hits a homerun 50% of the time. But the guy is talented and is still a young talent. But, I just don't think he's worth the money the Reds will have to spend on him... I agree...It's still time to get rid of him, and maybe get something in return.
May 18, 200818 yr Wonder where all the Dunn haters are now after his walk off bomb today? Out of town. Still don't like him
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