Howard Stern said on his show this morning that Imus used to throw around the "N" word like it was second nature when they worked together at NBC. Sounds like he has some racial issues.

Howard Stern is one to talk. Pot calling the kettle black here ? Sterns statement hold no water. His show includes a mentally handicaped person that goes by the name of "Gary The Retard", a black dwarf who I also believe has some type of learning disability and a raging alcoholic. I know when his show was on E Television it was basically a half hour of Stern making fun "Gary the Retard", the black dwarf and the alcoholic all while paying women a few dollars to degrade themselves on national television.

 

I thought Stern was always a huge advoacte of freedom of speech ?

 

My thoughts ? It takes a lot to offend me. The remarks (as idiotic as they were) did not offend me in anyway. I dont get offended when I am referred to as a "Cracker" in a hip hop song or when a African comedian calls my race "White Devils." At the end of the day Imus is an idiot for saying what he said on a national level.

 

I believe someone earlier said something to the tune of "People are people". In a perfect world this is true. This world however is not close to being perfect. Sharpton should have stayed out of this in my opinion.

I find what Imus said appalling...but I defend his right to sound like a butthead whenever he chooses.

 

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A stupid thing to say!

I think he was trying to be funny...though he's the wrong color to get away with that. I don't think he was trying to be racist and offensive.

 

 

I agree these girls should be upset...

But I don't think they are morally depleted and have experienced traumatic emotional damage like they are sounding off on.

 

 

I am willing to bet $$ they have heard/seen plenty of rap songs, movies, comedians that use much, much worse language and insults.

 

If you are going to listen, support, purchase, dance to lyrics that demean women, you can't trun around and pin the ills of social dysfunction on a white radio host.

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A stupid thing to say!

I think he was trying to be funny...though he's the wrong color to get away with that. I don't think he was trying to be racist and offensive.

 

I agree these girls should be upset...

But I don't think they are morally depleted and have experienced traumatic emotional damage like they are sounding off on.

 

I am willing to bet $$ they have heard/seen plenty of rap songs, movies, comedians that use much, much worse language and insults.

 

If you are going to listen, support, purchase, dance to lyrics that demean women, you can't turn around and pin the ills of social dysfunction on a white radio host.

Big difference, in attempting humor and being specific, with racial comments.

 

Whether this team and group of women, have heard similar comments in music is not relevant, since they weren't directed specifically at them....like Imus did.

 

Plain and simple, his comments are putrid, hurtful and regardless of intent, came from him. We all must be accountable for our actions and he crossed a line, of decency to not only African American women but collegiate women athletes, in my opinion.

 

Has he taken a good look in the mirror lately....:sssh:

^ He is a shock jock, that has made millions based on his opinions...he said horrible things, but has every right to do so, just like you and I..

^ He is a shock jock, that has made millions based on his opinions...he said horrible things, but has every right to do so, just like you and I..

I agree. I believe in freedom of speech and couldn't be more anti-PC. However, you better make sure that your employer is on the same page as you are before you start spouting offensive things.

^ He is a shock jock, that has made millions based on his opinions...he said horrible things, but has every right to do so, just like you and I..

Through free speech yes but this "shock jock" label, is what's wrong with a lot of Americans today. Often, these same comments, attitudes and opinions, are being expressed more and more, from the work place to private.

 

Hiding behind a microphone, calling it freedom of the press, doesn't exonerate him from conduct unbecoming and give him, a no accountability clause.

 

When you specifically comment, with the words he chose....his intent was clear, even if his mind wasn't.

After the hour long Rutgers recruiting session disguised as a news conference yesterday I wonder how many of those "deeply injured" women went back to their abodes and listened to any of the various rap "artists" who spew that kind of garbage and call it art?

 

I wonder how many leeches (lawyers) are already lined up wanting to reprenest these "injured" women in the multi-million dollar law suits that you know are coming?

 

I wonder how many people that took offense to the way the Dixie Chicks were treated after their boorish comments are now demanding Imus' head?

IMO, it is ridiculous to demand someone is fired for WORDS!

It was a rude, dumb thing to say..but it wasn't vicious, malicious, emotionally damaging. Just stupid.

 

Now, if the employer decides it is the right thing to do..that is for the employer to decide.

 

 

But not for the sleezy opportunistic Sharpton to dictate or determine.

 

 

 

 

With freedom of speech comes responsibility for consequences.

 

You can say anything you want about my momma.

It is a free country...but you'll probably be doing it with a bleeding lip! :fight: :thumb:

 

Then, my actions will require me to pay the consequences.

 

There are a couple news packages on cnn about the use of those 2 words that are worth watching.

 

Plus......I personally believe that if it was a black radio host....there would be no controversy.

Doesn't make it right or wrong....just no national media and no Sharpton.

Through free speech yes but this "shock jock" label, is what's wrong with a lot of Americans today. Often, these same comments, attitudes and opinions, are being expressed more and more, from the work place to private.

 

Hiding behind a microphone, calling it freedom of the press, doesn't exonerate him from conduct unbecoming and give him, a no accountability clause.

 

When you specifically comment, with the words he chose....his intent was clear, even if his mind wasn't.

As All Tell as stated in the post after yours, I'm sure that there is a good chance these women listen to Hip Hop lyrics equal to and worse than what was said by Imus. I don’t know, you may be a fan of that form of “entertainment” yourself, but since you think that Imus’s specific comments, with the words he chose, that his intent was clear then you must feel the same about Hip Hop lyrics and the “artists” that write and perform it. I, however, don’t remember seeing your stance on how offensive it is to women and how they must be punished, if I missed it I apologize.

As All Tell as stated in the post after yours, I'm sure that there is a good chance these women listen to Hip Hop lyrics equal to and worse than what was said by Imus. I don’t know, you may be a fan of that form of “entertainment” yourself, but since you think that Imus’s specific comments, with the words he chose, that his intent was clear then you must feel the same about Hip Hop lyrics and the “artists” that write and perform it. I, however, don’t remember seeing your stance on how offensive it is to women and how they must be punished, if I missed it I apologize.

Let me make this very clear to anyone, these are Imus's comments and this is not my stance, or how I feel.

 

I don't care for, like or choose to listen to Hip Hop...just not me. I also assume, no lyrics contain comments, which are specifically addressing Rutgers womens basketball players, their appearance and race.

 

Furthermore, what does have music, have to do with what Imus said....He specifically named the program and referenced them, in a degrading manner. His intent was clear, his choice of words disgusting and you can view my original comments, at Post #9.

 

Imus and those who portray themselves like him, using a microphone and a listening audience, to claim freedom of speech....are worthless, in my book.

NEW YORK -- Bruce Gordon, former head of the NAACP and a director of CBS Corp., said Wednesday the broadcasting company needs a "zero tolerance policy" on racism and hopes talk-show host Don Imus is fired for his demeaning remarks about the mostly black Rutgers women's basketball team.

 

"He's crossed the line, he's violated our community," Gordon said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "He needs to face the consequence of that violation."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=2833272

Let me make this very clear to anyone, these are Imus's comments and this is not my stance, or how I feel.

 

I don't care for, like or choose to listen to Hip Hop...just not me. I also assume, no lyrics contain comments, which are specifically addressing Rutgers womens basketball players, their appearance and race.

 

Furthermore, what does have music, have to do with what Imus said....He specifically named the program and referenced them, in a degrading manner. His intent was clear, his choice of words disgusting and you can view my original comments, at Post #9.

 

Imus and those who portray themselves like him, using a microphone and a listening audience, to claim freedom of speech....are worthless, in my book.

What does it have to do with it? Everything. What Imus said about the Rutgers women’s basketball players was intended as shtick, a poor and pathetic attempt, but shtick none the less. Pretty much like Chris Rock and those like him do in their routine and no one bats an eye. Hip Hop is no different, no they don't direct it at Rutgers women basketball players only, they direct it at ALL women everyday. Ask yourself, which is worse and more reprehensible. Yet, where is the outcry for their jobs?

NEW YORK -- Bruce Gordon, former head of the NAACP and a director of CBS Corp., said Wednesday the broadcasting company needs a "zero tolerance policy" on racism and hopes talk-show host Don Imus is fired for his demeaning remarks about the mostly black Rutgers women's basketball team.

 

"He's crossed the line, he's violated our community," Gordon said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "He needs to face the consequence of that violation."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=2833272

The NAACP is always vindictive in these situations.

Willie had a good point today. Where did the words he use originate from?

 

Not an excuse, not saying he should be let off the hook or anything but it's something to ponder...

What does it have to do with it? Everything. What Imus said about the Rutgers women’s basketball players was intended as shtick, a poor and pathetic attempt, but shtick none the less. Pretty much like Chris Rock and those like him do in their routine and no one bats an eye. Hip Hop is no different, no they don't direct it at Rutgers women basketball players only, they direct it at ALL women everyday. Ask yourself, which is worse and more reprehensible. Yet, where is the outcry for their jobs?

You're wanting this to be, about Hip Hop and no, it doesn't have anything to do with it. Imus is one, who commented specifically.

 

Imus made these statements and the topic at hand, is being accountable for his actions. I'm not in a discussion on music and lyrics, but what he specifically said.

 

You say shtick, I say intentional degrading of the Rutgers women.