The more interesting argument would be to say that Imus' show is essentially comedy. Comedy performances get much more leeway as evidenced by Chris Rock, Richard Pryor, Bill Maher, etc. If we go in knowing that comedy is sometimes uncomfortable, it puts a much different perspective on it.

 

For the record, I do NOT subscribe to his show being a comedy show but I have heard that argument.

Imus' problem is he's too full of himself. He thinks everything he says should be taken as 'funny' and accepted as cool. Well, he went too far this time, and now he's choking on his own spew.

The more interesting argument would be to say that Imus' show is essentially comedy. Comedy performances get much more leeway as evidenced by Chris Rock, Richard Pryor, Bill Maher, etc. If we go in knowing that comedy is sometimes uncomfortable, it puts a much different perspective on it.

 

For the record, I do NOT subscribe to his show being a comedy show but I have heard that argument.

 

I would strongly disagree. Over his long career Imus has behaved as a shock jock. This isn't the first controversy that he has been involved in. He has often been accused of racism, misogyny, and homophobia. He is pretty tame compared to Howard Stern or Opie & Anthony, but IMO he is definetly not a news show.

 

As far as Rev. Sharpton filing charges with the FCC, they will likely get nowhere. As far as I know, while his comments were insensitive and in poor taste, they were not obscene. I doubt that this will amount to any type of FCC infraction.

I'm the very last person you'll see defending the lyrics but I'd say we're not comparing apples to apples.

 

Hip hop plays to its audience and its audience is not bothered (apparently) by the lyrics.

 

Imus' show is basically a news show/ talk show which makes it different than hip hop.

You're making excuses IMO. Either it's wrong or it isn't, it can't be both ways. It doesn't matter if it's audience isn't bothered by the lyrics or not, wrong is wrong. This is a double standard, but double standards always come into play in these issues and thats why you'll continue to see this kind of stuff happen.

The more interesting argument would be to say that Imus' show is essentially comedy. Comedy performances get much more leeway as evidenced by Chris Rock, Richard Pryor, Bill Maher, etc. If we go in knowing that comedy is sometimes uncomfortable, it puts a much different perspective on it.

 

For the record, I do NOT subscribe to his show being a comedy show but I have heard that argument.

Same argument to me, there is no difference.

Imus was wrong to say what he said, in the way he said it, about the Rutgers girls… period.

 

On the other hand, I find it the height of absurdity if not out right hypocrisy for Sharpton and Jackson to be leading the crusade to get Imus canned. These two are attention hounds of the highest/lowest order. Their constant strain to elevate themselves into the spotlight and to be considered relevant disgusts me and minimizes any legitimate point they might actually have.

 

My favorite Sharpton quote so far was something along the lines of, "What precedent are we establishing here? That you can apologize once every ten years when you go over the line and everything will be forgiven?"

 

Uhhh, in what religion precisely are Sharpton and Jackson considered "reverends"? Has that faith changed, or have Al and Jesse changed what they believe? Is forgiveness no longer a key virtue of the faith in which they claim to be “reverends”?

 

I already know the answer to these questions, but thought they might be worth considering here.

Imus was wrong to say what he said, in the way he said it, about the Rutgers girls… period.

 

On the other hand, I find it the height of absurdity if not out right hypocrisy for Sharpton and Jackson to be leading the crusade to get Imus canned. These two are attention hounds of the highest/lowest order. Their constant strain to elevate themselves into the spotlight and to be considered relevant disgusts me and minimizes any legitimate point they might actually have.

 

My favorite Sharpton quote so far was something along the lines of, "What precedent are we establishing here? That you can apologize once every ten years when you go over the line and everything will be forgiven?"

 

Uhhh, in what religion precisely are Sharpton and Jackson considered "reverends"? Has that faith changed, or have Al and Jesse changed what they believe? Is forgiveness no longer a key virtue of the faith in which they claim to be “reverends”?

 

I already know the answer to these questions, but thought they might be worth considering here.

 

 

On the Today Show this morning, Matt Lauer approached the forgiveness issue. I am already sick of this story and wish the airwaves and tv stations would just move on. Too much attention and time has already been wasted.

Imus was wrong to say what he said, in the way he said it, about the Rutgers girls… period.

 

On the other hand, I find it the height of absurdity if not out right hypocrisy for Sharpton and Jackson to be leading the crusade to get Imus canned. These two are attention hounds of the highest/lowest order. Their constant strain to elevate themselves into the spotlight and to be considered relevant disgusts me and minimizes any legitimate point they might actually have.

 

My favorite Sharpton quote so far was something along the lines of, "What precedent are we establishing here? That you can apologize once every ten years when you go over the line and everything will be forgiven?"

 

Uhhh, in what religion precisely are Sharpton and Jackson considered "reverends"? Has that faith changed, or have Al and Jesse changed what they believe? Is forgiveness no longer a key virtue of the faith in which they claim to be “reverends”?

 

I already know the answer to these questions, but thought they might be worth considering here.

Excellent post. :thumb:

Imus is and idiot, I never listen to him and never plan on it. As far as I'm concerned he should have been gone years ago BUT

does anyone else find it a little amusing if not down right hypocritical that The Reverend Jackson plans on leading protests of Imus' show when the suspension is over?

The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who marched with about 50 protesters Monday outside NBC offices in Chicago, said Imus' suspensions will not halt the protests.

 

"This is a two-week cooling off period," Jackson said. "It does not challenge the character of the show, its political impact, or the impact that these comments have had on our society."

Full Article

 

Isn't Jackson the same man that once referred to New York and "Hymie Town"? As I recall he never apologized for his comments, in fact as I recall he tried to justify them. What do his comments say about his character, political impact or imact on our society?

Imus probably should have never went public with his apology anyway. I would have let the lawyer do it, now his in a storm.

Isn't Jackson the same man that once referred to New York and "Hymie Town"? As I recall he never apologized for his comments, in fact as I recall he tried to justify them. What do his comments say about his character, political impact or imact on our society?

I just saw Jackson on TV last night, and he's still glossing over his bigoted comments. Sharpton was successfully sued for racially charged slander in the Tawana Brawley case.. but, none of that matters.

 

Don't you guys get it? In our current culture, if you are a member of a minority, it's impossible to be bigoted. ( Nevermind the fact that according to most demographic surveys, there are only about 14 million Jewish people worldwide. )

Imus probably should have never went public with his apology anyway. I would have let the lawyer do it, now his in a storm.

I politely disagree. Imus should apologize for his insensitive and ill conceived comments. The problem is the attitude that he, or anyone should grovel at the feet of the self-appointed PC police.

 

Again, I am in no way defending Imus or his comments, but I can’t help but be amazed at the outrage expressed by liberals who claim to be proponents of free speech.

 

If Sharpton and Jackson were truly as concerned for the young ladies directly offended by Imus’ comments, they would ignore Imus himself and trot these young women on the airwaves to hear their side of the story. They could allow them to reveal what outstanding young achievers they truly are, and by default show what an embarrassing buffoon Imus actually is. They would win the battle of public opinion in a landslide, and Imus would lose listeners… sponsors… and ultimately broadcast affiliates in droves.

 

The point is, none of this is about what’s truly about right and wrong. It’s not about the girls wrongly accused. It’s all about AL and JESSE.

 

Everybody look and listen…

The Rutger's coach and players are not amused:

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17999196/?GT1=9246

I just saw Jackson on TV last night, and he's still glossing over his bigoted comments. Sharpton was successfully sued for racially charged slander in the Tawana Brawley case.. but, none of that matters.

 

Don't you guys get it? In our current culture, if you are a member of a minority, it's impossible to be bigoted. ( Nevermind the fact that according to most demographic surveys, there are only about 14 million Jewish people worldwide. )

I politely disagree. Imus should apologize for his insensitive and ill conceived comments. The problem is the attitude that he, or anyone should grovel at the feet of the self-appointed PC police.

 

Again, I am in no way defending Imus or his comments, but I can’t help but be amazed at the outrage expressed by liberals who claim to be proponents of free speech.

 

If Sharpton and Jackson were truly as concerned for the young ladies directly offended by Imus’ comments, they would ignore Imus himself and trot these young women on the airwaves to hear their side of the story. They could allow them to reveal what outstanding young achievers they truly are, and by default show what an embarrassing buffoon Imus actually is. They would win the battle of public opinion in a landslide, and Imus would lose listeners… sponsors… and ultimately broadcast affiliates in droves.

 

The point is, none of this is about what’s truly about right and wrong. It’s not about the girls wrongly accused. It’s all about AL and JESSE.

 

Everybody look and listen…

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jackson and Sharpton, I believe, care more about the attention and the spotlight than they do for anyone that has been wronged by words or actions. Though I don't know what's in their heart, I believe it is indeed about AL and JJ.

"We cannot keep going through offending us and then apologizing and then acting like it never happened. Somewhere we've got to stop this."

-- Rev. Al Sharpton

 

 

 

You are quoting one great American!

Imus was wrong to say what he said, in the way he said it, about the Rutgers girls… period.

 

On the other hand, I find it the height of absurdity if not out right hypocrisy for Sharpton and Jackson to be leading the crusade to get Imus canned. These two are attention hounds of the highest/lowest order. Their constant strain to elevate themselves into the spotlight and to be considered relevant disgusts me and minimizes any legitimate point they might actually have.

 

My favorite Sharpton quote so far was something along the lines of, "What precedent are we establishing here? That you can apologize once every ten years when you go over the line and everything will be forgiven?"

 

Uhhh, in what religion precisely are Sharpton and Jackson considered "reverends"? Has that faith changed, or have Al and Jesse changed what they believe? Is forgiveness no longer a key virtue of the faith in which they claim to be “reverends”?

 

I already know the answer to these questions, but thought they might be worth considering here.

I believe Jesse is now considered a father.