Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me?

 

If something so small really bother those who claim to be so hurt by this I am afraid you have deeper issues and are only looking for a reason to spout off.

 

I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.

Which part of these comments, which was made to a national radio and TV audience, should one not take as offensive and bothersome.... (from the article)

 

"That's some rough girls from Rutgers," Imus said. "Man, they got tattoos..."

 

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

 

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

Good ridden Imus and all the microphone, putrid slingers, whom claim to be entertainers.

I agree with this...I am glad the simulcast is gone...know that I can't stand Imus...always have considered him sort of "bad" for society...but being that someone wanted him on the air...he has that right.

Which part of these comments, which was made to a national radio and TV audience, should one not take as offensive and bothersome.... (from the article)

 

"That's some rough girls from Rutgers," Imus said. "Man, they got tattoos..."

 

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

 

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

And like I said, If Chris Rock or Ludacris said the exact same thing in an interview on Imus's show instead of Imus saying it, we wouldn't be having this conversation. This is only an issue because Imus is white.

Which part of these comments, which was made to a national radio and TV audience, should one not take as offensive and bothersome.... (from the article)

 

"That's some rough girls from Rutgers," Imus said. "Man, they got tattoos..."

 

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

 

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

Words are only that and in my life I am strong enough not to look for little things to make a mountain out of. Those who are in this case would be laughing if this was said by a black comedian or singing along with it if it was in a rap song. These same people will let their kids listen to lyrics as bad or worse and not say a word why? A black rapper is the one saying it. WAKE UP PEOPLE EVERYONE WHO CAN SEE CAN SEE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.

The last two posts are as true as anything written on here!!

:thumb:

 

Chris Rock HAS said things like this and made $$ doing it while being applauded.

 

 

I happen to be in a position of employment that lets me hear/see what hundreds of young black children are reading, watching, hearing on a daily basis.

 

 

They wouldn't have flinched at hearing this....unless a white person said it.

 

It was rude and stupid to say.

I would not say it.

 

But there is a double standard for what a white and black person can say in the public eye.

Go ahead.....ANYONE try to deny that and show us that there isn't.

Not sure, why some of you guys keep wanting to include rappers, song lyrics and "if he was black".....Imus made public comments, specific in nature and directed them toward the Rutgers women team, intentionally....

 

I'm not here to discuss song lyrics, what is being heard everyday or who listens to what, because that is not the issue in my instance, it's the comments made by Imus.

 

Young men and women, make choices daily, as to what they wear, eat, talk like and listen to....often times, they are subjected to hurtful comments, from the mere surroundings they are in and others, through their own choice. Imus made his own choice, to speak directly to and about, the Rutgers basketball team and their physical appearance, than he characterized them....It was intentional, offensive and blatant.

 

Can't say it enough, Imus was wrong and could care less, regarding the color of his skin, the content of his words is the offensive issue, with me.

Not sure, why some of you guys keep wanting to include rappers, song lyrics and "if he was black".....Imus made public comments, specific in nature and directed them toward the Rutgers women team, intentionally....

 

I'm not here to discuss song lyrics, what is being heard everyday or who listens to what, because that is not the issue in my instance, it's the comments made by Imus.

 

Young men and women, make choices daily, as to what they wear, eat, talk like and listen to....often times, they are subjected to hurtful comments, from the mere surroundings they are in and others, through their own choice. Imus made his own choice, to speak directly to and about, the Rutgers basketball team and their physical appearance, than he characterized them....It was intentional, offensive and blatant.

 

Can't say it enough, Imus was wrong and could care less, regarding the color of his skin, the content of his words is the offensive issue, with me.

It's a shame that the facts of what we are saying are lost in your eyes. What he said was stupid, but not near as bad as things that were said in the past by him. The only reason he was fired at all is because of $, and we all know it. Accounts such as P&G start pulling out because of apologists such as you, what he said HURT NO ONE. This whole episode is a joke. I’m sorry STRIKE3, but calling for his head is worse than what he said.

It's a shame that the facts of what we are saying are lost in your eyes. What he said was stupid, but not near as bad as things that were said in the past by him. The only reason he was fired at all is because of $, and we all know it. Accounts such as P&G start pulling out because of apologists such as you, what he said HURT NO ONE. This whole episode is a joke. I’m sorry STRIKE3, but calling for his head is worse than what he said.

 

I am sorry that you cannot see the error in this...its seems as if you have never been in a situation where someone belittled you for your race or sex...things of which you have no choice over but are proud of just the same. If you truly believe that no hurt or pain comes from this, then you are mistaken.

It's a shame that the facts of what we are saying are lost in your eyes. What he said was stupid, but not near as bad as things that were said in the past by him. The only reason he was fired at all is because of $, and we all know it. Accounts such as P&G start pulling out because of apologists such as you, what he said HURT NO ONE. This whole episode is a joke. I’m sorry STRIKE3, but calling for his head is worse than what he said.

Final post on this topic for me and in case you haven't gotten my point, I'm not now, nor never been an Imus fan, because of his comments and those like him.

 

I agree comments were stupid, but disagree they were hurtful and specifically, to the Rutgers women team. I don't understand the apologist label and to each his own. I'm of the very blunt nature, when stating my opinion and most that know me, would agree.

 

Imus serves no real value, other than creating an environment, where sitting behind a microphone and calling it free speech, but it's okay to degrade others....I don't like it, never have and never will.

 

Imus, Stern and those in a similar position, make me shake my head in disgust and ask...."Is this the way society views others".

 

We'll agree to disagree, as to comments hurting anyone.

All I would say is that I don't think because a station or its listeners let a shock jock run on for years and years somehow grants a "waiver" to his continued poor behavior. Nor do I think the statement that "we should expect this" has any relevance or merit.

 

I don't think his statements were racist, but they were very nasty, and directed at some young women who hadn't done anything to him. If the station wants to fire him, I'm fine with it, and I don't think its "giving in to pressure." I think it would be a right thing to do. If my secretary made such a comment about a client of mine, public or not, I would fire her, whether or not Sharpton and Jackson showed up. Many moons ago the community shunned people who acted outrageously and that was their worst punishment, and somewhere we've gotten away from that. And that is why people continue to act the way they do, because there are no social consequences anymore.

 

All of the hip-hop discussion, what MSNBC and P&G did, even Sharpton and Jackson, are merely irrelevant red herrings to the question: what should be done about Don Imus' comment? I think the best bet would be to have the brothers or fathers of some of those girls to go down and kick the hell out of him, and the community decide not to investigate too heavily. A little more of that and I don't think we'd be in the mess of a social experiement we call the US of A.

The only reason this has become an issue is 100% because he is white. If you really don't believe that is true, you are blind.

I am sorry that you cannot see the error in this...its seems as if you have never been in a situation where someone belittled you for your race or sex...things of which you have no choice over

 

There are plenty of ways to make your hair less nappy.

All I would say is that I don't think because a station or its listeners let a shock jock run on for years and years somehow grants a "waiver" to his continued poor behavior. Nor do I think the statement that "we should expect this" has any relevance or merit.

 

I don't think his statements were racist, but they were very nasty, and directed at some young women who hadn't done anything to him. If the station wants to fire him, I'm fine with it, and I don't think its "giving in to pressure." I think it would be a right thing to do. If my secretary made such a comment about a client of mine, public or not, I would fire her, whether or not Sharpton and Jackson showed up. Many moons ago the community shunned people who acted outrageously and that was their worst punishment, and somewhere we've gotten away from that. And that is why people continue to act the way they do, because there are no social consequences anymore.

 

All of the hip-hop discussion, what MSNBC and P&G did, even Sharpton and Jackson, are merely irrelevant red herrings to the question: what should be done about Don Imus' comment? I think the best bet would be to have the brothers or fathers of some of those girls to go down and kick the hell out of him, and the community decide not to investigate too heavily. A little more of that and I don't think we'd be in the mess of a social experiement we call the US of A.

If Sharpton, Jackson P&G etc are irrelevant then why did MSNBC and CBS wait almost a week before taking action. It wasn't until Jackson and Sharpton started their crusade that the media even picked up that this happened and that's why they are relevant. Why aren't Jackson and Sharpton condemning black entertainers (and by extension bringing them under intense scrutiny from the media) for making the same or worse statements each and every day? Why are Jackson and Sharpton even credible in this whole issue considering their history of racist statements and actions? Since Jackson and Sharpton have chosen to insinuate themselves into this issue then they become relevant. The media is so scare of doing anything that will offend these two racists (Meredith Viera even apologized to Jackson for bringing up his "Hymie Town" comments on the Today show:confused: ) and by extension be labeled racist that they have basically given then free reign to run with their agenda as well as a bully pulpit from which to spout it. That's why they are relevant.

If Sharpton, Jackson P&G etc are irrelevant then why did MSNBC and CBS wait almost a week before taking action. It wasn't until Jackson and Sharpton started their crusade that the media even picked up that this happened and that's why they are relevant. Why aren't Jackson and Sharpton condemning black entertainers (and by extension bringing them under intense scrutiny from the media) for making the same or worse statements each and every day? Why are Jackson and Sharpton even credible in this whole issue considering their history of racist statements and actions? Since Jackson and Sharpton have chosen to insinuate themselves into this issue then they become relevant. The media is so scare of doing anything that will offend these two racists (Meredith Viera even apologized to Jackson for bringing up his "Hymie Town" comments on the Today show:confused: ) and by extension be labeled racist that they have basically given then free reign to run with their agenda as well as a bully pulpit from which to spout it. That's why they are relevant.

 

They are irrelevant to the question "should Don Imus be fired?" As I stated, I don't think the comments were racist. They were mean. He should be fired because he was mean, not because of anything Sharpton or Jackson says or does. If MSNBC and P&G fire him because they are responsive to the wrong reason (and I think you're right about that), that may the topic of a diferent thread, but I think the achieved result is correct.

Final post on this topic for me and in case you haven't gotten my point, I'm not now, nor never been an Imus fan, because of his comments and those like him.

 

I agree comments were stupid, but disagree they were hurtful and specifically, to the Rutgers women team. I don't understand the apologist label and to each his own. I'm of the very blunt nature, when stating my opinion and most that know me, would agree.

 

Imus serves no real value, other than creating an environment, where sitting behind a microphone and calling it free speech, but it's okay to degrade others....I don't like it, never have and never will.

 

Imus, Stern and those in a similar position, make me shake my head in disgust and ask...."Is this the way society views others".

 

We'll agree to disagree, as to comments hurting anyone.

Just so I'm clear, I'm not a fan of Imus either and I really can't stand Stern, that being said, they have their place in the market, that's why they’ve been so successful.

Frankly, you’re the one not getting the point here. I understand that you can’t stand the guy, but so what; evidently there are a lot of people that like his show. Feelings got hurt, nothing more. When I said no one was hurt, I meant physically and please don’t hand me the physiological damage that was done because there was none. Their feelings got hurt, big deal, be an adult and move on with your life for crying out loud. A stupid statement like his only detracts from their accomplishments if the girls themselves want it to.

I’m very blunt myself, as you can likely tell. The apologist statement really isn’t that hard to figure out, it wasn’t meant as a slam, however. People, such as yourself, seem to go over the top when a white guy says something stupid about a person of color, that’s all.

I don’t think Imus sat behind a microphone calling it free speech so he could degrade others; it was just his job and has been for years, he went a little too far for this day and age. I keep trying to explain to you that it’s a double standard when I speak of Hip Hop or comedians, you really should be able to see that skin color really does come into play in these situations. If you really pay attention, you’ll see it.