7 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

Video #1 they released. 

44 seconds from contact to start of arrest.  Contact is at 32 seconds with officer reaching out to car apparently trying to grab the door handle while the vehicle is in process of braking.  Arrest starts at 1:16 with forcible opening of the door. 

During those 44 seconds the detective clearly reaches into the vehicle for some reason.  He also puts his head and upper body inside the vehicle. 

The vehicle never moves after completing its braking action at the start of the contact. 

 

 

6 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

 

 

While not confirmed, it seems there is no close contact until the detective runs after the vehicle and appears to strike the window forcibly upon initial approach.  He seems agitated and aggressive at the onset of this contact. 

 

 

5 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

 

 

That's wild. Such a bad look for LMPD. I'm curious as to what type of detective duties this officer typically performs. 

5 hours ago, theguru said:

To me that means he was loading up the charges with each stop but still, that is a lot.  

My thoughts as well. Instead of a simple driving on suspended.   The citations turned into driving on suspended, license to be in possession, failure to produce insurance card, failure to maintain insurance, expired registration plate, no registration receipt, no seat belt, and disregarding a stop sign. That's just my guess though and I've never been a fan of that stuff. I don't care if everyone of them is accurate, it's redundant and unnecessary. 

The videos all help Scheffler version and hurt the police officer version of the story.

I barely caught it, but in the press release didn't they say they were only releasing redacted video?  Reason being was the ongoing legal proceedings? 

I'm indifferent when it comes to LMPD, they're a black eye for the city among many but I'm curious as to why. I hope it's not just for the hell of it and that they do have a definitive video. I'd hate to work there right now. 

15 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

108 citations in 4 hours? That's gotta be some kinda record...

 

That's just over 2 per minute.  

3 hours ago, sportsfan41 said:

I barely caught it, but in the press release didn't they say they were only releasing redacted video?  Reason being was the ongoing legal proceedings? 

I'm indifferent when it comes to LMPD, they're a black eye for the city among many but I'm curious as to why. I hope it's not just for the hell of it and that they do have a definitive video. I'd hate to work there right now. 

They released a 55 minute dash cam video that starts 20ish minutes prior to the SS incident.

21 hours ago, bugatti said:

I have no clue what happened, but I love the Zapruder film-like attention these videos are receiving.

Here is some Zapruder-like fodder. 

The 4 minute Pole video and the 55 minute dashcam video synch up at around 0:27 seconds and 22:47.  You can not see much in either until Scheffler's vehicle comes into view.  In the short video a bus still on Shelbyville Road blocks the view of the approach.  In the Dashcam video the bus that is stopped in a partial left turn blocks the specific view of Scheffler's approach. 

Though not directly visible the Dashcam video picks up Scheffler's head lights reflection on the wet roadway at the 22:33 mark and appears to come to a complete stop at 22:36.  It appears he likely drove up in the median lane since busses are stopped on the main lanes and there is a bus blocking the lanes coming from the other direction.

At 22:45 (12 seconds after coming to a complete stop) it appears he proceeds toward entrance.  There appears to be no sudden, unexpected acceleration at all.  The last notable from this video is at 22:52 what appears to be the arresting officer is running towards and behind Scheffler's vehicle.  He is not being dragged at all but running and is not physical contact with the vehicle.  Switching to the Pole video it appears he is chasing and cutting the turning radius to intercept Mrl. Scheffler's vehicle. 

The interaction in the Pole video last 22 seconds from the time the vehicle stops and two officers start to forcibly remove Mr. Scheffler from the vehicle.  They immediately handcuff him upon extracting him, forcibly, from the vehicle. 

The grassy knoll in the background was not a factor. 

 

Louisville may have a difficult time getting another PGA Championship. The golfers were already complaining about the traffic logistics, and some of the tv analysts were criticizing the course for being too easy for PGA caliber golfers in one of the big 4 major tournaments. 

On 5/24/2024 at 11:11 AM, Bluegrasscard said:

Here is some Zapruder-like fodder. 

The 4 minute Pole video and the 55 minute dashcam video synch up at around 0:27 seconds and 22:47.  You can not see much in either until Scheffler's vehicle comes into view.  In the short video a bus still on Shelbyville Road blocks the view of the approach.  In the Dashcam video the bus that is stopped in a partial left turn blocks the specific view of Scheffler's approach. 

Though not directly visible the Dashcam video picks up Scheffler's head lights reflection on the wet roadway at the 22:33 mark and appears to come to a complete stop at 22:36.  It appears he likely drove up in the median lane since busses are stopped on the main lanes and there is a bus blocking the lanes coming from the other direction.

At 22:45 (12 seconds after coming to a complete stop) it appears he proceeds toward entrance.  There appears to be no sudden, unexpected acceleration at all.  The last notable from this video is at 22:52 what appears to be the arresting officer is running towards and behind Scheffler's vehicle.  He is not being dragged at all but running and is not physical contact with the vehicle.  Switching to the Pole video it appears he is chasing and cutting the turning radius to intercept Mrl. Scheffler's vehicle. 

The interaction in the Pole video last 22 seconds from the time the vehicle stops and two officers start to forcibly remove Mr. Scheffler from the vehicle.  They immediately handcuff him upon extracting him, forcibly, from the vehicle. 

The grassy knoll in the background was not a factor. 

 

I'm not sure if they've argued that the dragging took place before that, but I do think it is reasonable to raise an eyebrow at the concept that he would have been dragged 40 feet before coming into view.  That's an incredibly unaffected run for someone who would have been supposedly dragged. 

Romines is going to eat them alive.

Has anyone come forward to say the dragging took place? Surely the officer was yelling if he was being dragged and trying to stop the vehicle? No other officers or other witnesses? That doesn't seem possible. If he was dragged someone had to see it or hear a yell.

29 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Has anyone come forward to say the dragging took place? Surely the officer was yelling if he was being dragged and trying to stop the vehicle? No other officers or other witnesses? That doesn't seem possible. If he was dragged someone had to see it or hear a yell.

No, they haven’t. 

2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Has anyone come forward to say the dragging took place? Surely the officer was yelling if he was being dragged and trying to stop the vehicle? No other officers or other witnesses? That doesn't seem possible. If he was dragged someone had to see it or hear a yell.

There is no reaction by any officer at all until after the arresting officer engages at the second stop that Scheffler made (the one visible in the pole camera video.) 

5 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Has anyone come forward to say the dragging took place? Surely the officer was yelling if he was being dragged and trying to stop the vehicle? No other officers or other witnesses? That doesn't seem possible. If he was dragged someone had to see it or hear a yell.

Just to add some context. There is a fairly simple formula (not exact but very close) for speed and distance with vehicles. The speed of the vehicle in mph multiplied by 1.5 is the distance in feet, traveled per second. So if you're talking about 40 feet, that distance could be traveled in 1 second at only 26-27 mph, not a high speed at all, but it does show how quickly an event can transpire.