10 hours ago, TheConch said:

Boone is probably just focused on finding applicants, not choosing the best one at this point time.

I recently talked to a family member of a coach that applied for this position.  This coach has many years of head coaching experience at a NKY school.  It would be a solid hire if he is selected. 

18 minutes ago, BOJNJ said:

I recently talked to a family member of a coach that applied for this position.  This coach has many years of head coaching experience at a NKY school.  It would be a solid hire if he is selected. 

I wouldn’t think that would be a long list of people who fit that criteria. 

26 minutes ago, BOJNJ said:

I recently talked to a family member of a coach that applied for this position.  This coach has many years of head coaching experience at a NKY school.  It would be a solid hire if he is selected. 

If that’s true, they should call off the interviews and go ahead and name him, because I would have to assume no one else applying for the job would fit that description. 

But you know what they say about assuming. 

3 hours ago, BOJNJ said:

I recently talked to a family member of a coach that applied for this position.  This coach has many years of head coaching experience at a NKY school.  It would be a solid hire if he is selected. 

Total guess. No insight on this.

Greg Taphouse

Whom ever gets the job needs to come in with a realistic minds set about the state of the program. Patience needs to be more important than Xs and Os in my opinion. 

Something that doesn't get mentioned on here very much with these NKY jobs is salary.  It's hard to find and retain a lot of these guys as teachers when if they go across the into Ohio, they make 20-30 thousand more immediately.  I know the salaries aren't terrible in NKY compared to other parts of the state, but when you compare them to let's say Jefferson County or Fayette County, all NKY schools are SIGNIFANTLY below them..... even though the NKY schools are located in a much higher populated metropolitan area.  These schools wouldn't have quite as much turnover in teachers or coaches if they would get on board and get their salary schedules closer to the Ohio schools or the big county schools in KY.

14 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Total guess. No insight on this.

Greg Taphouse

No knowledge or insight on this either, but what about Eric Turner? He's a Boone county Alum.

12 hours ago, Breds82 said:

Whom ever gets the job needs to come in with a realistic minds set about the state of the program. Patience needs to be more important than Xs and Os in my opinion. 

Tell that to the fans who expect immediate results. It's tough to keep kids in the program and working hard if they get pounded 6-8 times a season.

10 hours ago, New Colonel said:

Something that doesn't get mentioned on here very much with these NKY jobs is salary.  It's hard to find and retain a lot of these guys as teachers when if they go across the into Ohio, they make 20-30 thousand more immediately.  I know the salaries aren't terrible in NKY compared to other parts of the state, but when you compare them to let's say Jefferson County or Fayette County, all NKY schools are SIGNIFANTLY below them..... even though the NKY schools are located in a much higher populated metropolitan area.  These schools wouldn't have quite as much turnover in teachers or coaches if they would get on board and get their salary schedules closer to the Ohio schools or the big county schools in KY.

20-30k more immediately? You sure about those JCPS and FCPS salaries as compared to Boone County or Fort Thomas? Turnover in coaches? Conner, Ryle, and Cooper have coaches that have long tenures.
How long was Rash at Beechwood? Mueller at Highlands? The turnover in coaches is about program success. You would find the big county schools out in the state put many coaches into "low stress"(lol) positions during the school day where they have limited student responsibility. Bottom line with HS football no matter what you think...... it's about PLAYERS......and years ago Boone had them. Check some of these districts in NKY's extra duty salary schedule and you will see a disparity directly related to zip code.

The 20-30k I think was talking about OH not JCPS or FCPS. 

Wonder if Coach Fliyd applied?

53 minutes ago, 9068 said:

Tell that to the fans who expect immediate results. It's tough to keep kids in the program and working hard if they get pounded 6-8 times a season.

That is a very serious talk the new HC would need to have with the parents, players and administration. Brutal honesty has to be heard. Sometimes you have to be the team(s) who get mounded for your 3 years for the eventual success of the program. Some can handle that and many cannot.

2 hours ago, 9068 said:

20-30k more immediately? You sure about those JCPS and FCPS salaries as compared to Boone County or Fort Thomas? Turnover in coaches? Conner, Ryle, and Cooper have coaches that have long tenures.
How long was Rash at Beechwood? Mueller at Highlands? The turnover in coaches is about program success. You would find the big county schools out in the state put many coaches into "low stress"(lol) positions during the school day where they have limited student responsibility. Bottom line with HS football no matter what you think...... it's about PLAYERS......and years ago Boone had them. Check some of these districts in NKY's extra duty salary schedule and you will see a disparity directly related to zip code.

The 20-30 thousand I was referring to going over the river into Ohio.

It's about 10-15 thousand difference going from NKY to Jefferson and Fayette Counties. Kenton County has the highest pay in NKY followed by Ft. Thomas.  Those same teachers would make over 20k more in most Cincinnati districts (not all though).

I know there are some coaches with long tenures, and it's no surprise that the schools that give their coaches time ... At least 5 years almost always find success.  Of course at most, there's still going to be some natural ups and downs, and schools should realize and expect that. 

It is definitely about players, and nobody gets into high school teaching and coaching to get rich.  But it's really hard to turn big pay increases, especially when you are younger, have more student loans, young kids, possibly trying to buy a house, etc.

 

And you are very right about the extra duty salaries in NKY, HUGE disparities salary. 

1 hour ago, New Colonel said:

The 20-30 thousand I was referring to going over the river into Ohio.

It's about 10-15 thousand difference going from NKY to Jefferson and Fayette Counties. Kenton County has the highest pay in NKY followed by Ft. Thomas.  Those same teachers would make over 20k more in most Cincinnati districts (not all though).

I know there are some coaches with long tenures, and it's no surprise that the schools that give their coaches time ... At least 5 years almost always find success.  Of course at most, there's still going to be some natural ups and downs, and schools should realize and expect that. 

It is definitely about players, and nobody gets into high school teaching and coaching to get rich.  But it's really hard to turn big pay increases, especially when you are younger, have more student loans, young kids, possibly trying to buy a house, etc.

 

And you are very right about the extra duty salaries in NKY, HUGE disparities salary. 

So you are saying that teacher beginning salaries in Ohio are 60-70k?

8 hours ago, 9068 said:

So you are saying that teacher beginning salaries in Ohio are 60-70k?

No, I'm not.  Starting salaries area all relatively about the same in NKY, Cincy, Louisville, and Lexington.  It is how one progresses through the salary schedules.  The KY schools give much smaller yearly raises than OH schools in general.  You really start to see this disparity around year 10 of experience.

For instance, my wife works in Kenton County.  She makes what I and many consider a good salary.  She has her Rank I and 15 years experience.  Her good friend has the exact same education (45 credit hours above a Master's Degree) but has spent her career in Cincinnati Public Schools.  Her friend makes 25k and change more than my wife.  

I'll list beginning salaries and max salaries below for some KY schools, and Cincy area schools.  It's really hard to tell someone they could make hundreds of thousands of dollars more over the duration of your career for driving 10-30 minutes further into a neighboring state.  And I miss-spoke when I said Kenton County was the best paying.... Erlanger-Elsmere actually maxes out slightly higher than Kenton County.

 

Kenton County -46,916             86,063 

Erlanger-Elsemere- 42,753      87,586

Ft. Mitchell (Beechwood)- 43,360      75,795

Jefferson County - 47,096.47       95,112.09

Fayette County - 50,085          104,498

Cincinnati Public - 50,199.78        110,972.53

Oak Hills - 46,761         105,211

Forest Hills - 49,011       103,505

Indian Hill - 47,311       115,619

Wyoming City - 46,356      114,962

Princeton City - 48,406      105,282

Loveland City - 45,492       103,949

Sycamore Local - 47,798       106,075

Mason City - 47,999      112,222

Lakota Local - 51,589       107,055

Southwest Local - 45,879       104,595

Norwood City - 46,078       101,529

Three Rivers Local - 44,957       102,704

St. Bernard - Elmwood Place Schools - 45,907      100,995

 

Even the lowest paying district in Hamilton County (Cincinnati) maxes out at 90,154

The point is, schools in KY have a really difficult time keeping teachers.  I know this is especially true in NKY, where most schools are scrambling every year to fill numerous jobs.  Many schools are still hiring teachers the week school starts, and many of these teachers bolt across the river into Cincy because it's truly life-changing money when you add it up over a career of 30 or so years.