Mr.Network Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Yes to both. This is one of the top three programs in the state of Illinois with good facilites and great coaching. Mr Network, you mention a strength coach and a trainer. My questioni would be is the strength coach CSCS certified and is the trainer an ATC? If the answer is no, I would seek out a person in your area that is CSCS certified and have him go thru a routine w/your son to make sure he is lifting correctly. If the trainer is a personal trainer, big deal, anyone can become and get certified as a personal trainer. The CSCS/ATC are both certified do to obtaining a colleger degree and then becoming nationally certified. CSCS(certified strength and condition specialist), ATC(athletic trainer certified) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ptshooter Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 If you have a CSCS on staff, it is big time. Most schools now, hopefully, have an ATC. CSCS's usually are working at a college, you are very fortunate. A lot of ATC's get certified as a CSCS, they go hand in hand. Good luck to your son!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risky5 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Creatine? That may have contributed its designed to fill you muscles with h2o so it enables the body to work longer and harder. I personally took it and it was a mistake, it dehydrates the body very quickly in little time, and adds fat not only muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetoya Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I understand that this was a BIG scare, but what kids and some adults don't understand is that you can only do so much at any level. I'm now sold on the core concept. Yes, bench, squat, dead lift, and clean are important but so is the middle torso! When my son, if he wants to play football, is willing to stay after workouts he will be directed by me to work on his abs, back, and neck muscles. There is a thing called over training that leads to less or NO gains. Muscle must have to repair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldonetechnique Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I agree on the core, any extra can be spent crunching and building the core, however, I don't tell too many kids not to lift when their workout ends. The truth is that very few kids lift at an intensity level where this can be debtrimental. If I have a kid who really gets after it, I will pull him back a little on the extra stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHSDad Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I saw a brief report on the news last night that talked about high school kids doing heavy lifting and what a health problem it was becoming. These kids are still growing and need to be supervised in their lifting by someone how understands muscular-skeletal systems of young adults. And the weight room needs to be locked up when that person isn't in there. A group of young men and a pile of weights, someone's going to get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRIKE3 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Any type of weight training or conditioning, should be monitored and implemented by either a certified Trainer, Coach or Adult, who has researched a proper technique. I'm not a Trainer but I've done considerable research, of various methods of sports training (Baseball, Basketball and Football). I've also purchased the conditioning and nutrition plans of UK, EKU and Cincinnati. From each, I've developed a conditioning program, sport specific for student-athletes. Proper nutrition and exclusion of some foods and beverages, is just as essential as what is consumed. Stretching before and after, is imperative and not allowing the player, to deviate is key....3 sets of 10 reps, means just that not more. Including Cardio, Weight Training (benching, curls, Stationary Machines (bikes and weights), Plyometrics, JOBES, Jump Ropes and Band Work. Recovery time between stations and repetitions, must be adhered to. Some can be increased over weeks, while other will have the weight increased and reps the same. A designed program, which includes Weight Training days, along with Condition days, must also include days off/recovery days. A young body, needs to be extremely careful when using "free-weights" and proper safety, belts and spotters in place. A parent should ask to see, a printed version of any conditioning program, that their child is on. Also, make any Trainer, Coach or personnel, aware of ANY medical conditions and leave contact information, if the parent is not present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Network Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 Looks like a full recovery. To be sure, we had an MRA test done (similar to MRI but checks the blood vessels in the brain). It was normal and he has resumed training. In fact, he is taking extra speed training with a private group. They guarantee results and he has enjoyed the first two session so far. You can see what they offer here. http://www.getfastinc.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 He probably needs to really concentrate on his breathing while lifting, he was in the lying position which is not the best for breathing, he was doing a heavy lift, he was probably holding his breath while exerting force if you do this you will throw up and pass out if you are not careful I have done it and I have seen it happen several other times. The headache is probably from all of the test he will be fine in a few days. Tell him to remember breath in on the way down, out on the way up. I was say it could've been the breathing as well. That is one of the biggest things when you're doing power lifting, it's a big part of one technique, if he's not getting enough oxygen to his entire body it can really mess you up. My breathing got messed up when I took a break from lifting once and I would have dizzy spells. It's possible with the jet lag, and time off (even though it wasn't too long) could've been just enough to throw him off. Factor that in with him just trying to jump back into his routine full swing, I could imagine something like this would be posible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTS MAN Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Creatine? That may have contributed its designed to fill you muscles with h2o so it enables the body to work longer and harder. I personally took it and it was a mistake, it dehydrates the body very quickly in little time, and adds fat not only muscle. Creatine doesn't add fat. Its a muscle cell volumizer. You do need to drink additional water with the supplement. The only way to add fat is to take in more calories than you need. Supplements get a bad reputation from people that lump all supplements together. Caffein and ephedrine products should not be taken. But supplements such as a multi vitamin or gatoraid are examples of supplementation that can be used to replace nutrients lost during training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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