I have thrown on a bandana the last two times I went to Kroger. I don't think it helps protect me one bit, but maybe it helps someone around me. If nothing else, it might bring some comfort for those around me that I have something on my face. I do it to be courteous.

 

I don't think anyone wearing one should be telling anyone else what to do. If the establishment doesn't require it, it's not your place to speak up. But I am with you VOR, I bet there will be plenty of altercations.

I can feel my brain biggening from all the awesome science being referred to in this thread.

 

Masks help stop spread. That's it.

 

The CDC says so. Johns Hopkins says so. The Mayo clinic says so.

 

What's the problem here?

 

It's really scary to me that so many people are now rejecting science, and feel everything the mainstream media puts out is false or tied to an agenda. I'm not saying you blindly trust everything you see. But nowadays, it seems like if something doesn't support your specific belief set, it must be false.

This position makes your actions all about you and no regard for the people around you. Again I ask, why is it so difficult to put a mask on, if for no other reason than courtesy to the people in front of you?

 

What about being courteous to me not wanting to wear a mask? This goes both ways. I'm more of a believer in the effectiveness of social distancing.

 

Those who are dead set on wearing masks this is a real situation that I have witnessed at every store I've been in. At a grocery store, there was an individual in the same isle as myself. This individual had a mask on but around their neck so mouth and nose were not covered. As I was about to walk past them they put their mask on. So now all things this individual touched from this point on could be deemed contaminated.

 

So, yeah. No mask for me. I'll continue to wash my hands a lot and to keep my distance from people.

It's really scary to me that so many people are now rejecting science, and feel everything the mainstream media puts out is false or tied to an agenda. I'm not saying you blindly trust everything you see. But nowadays, it seems like if something doesn't support your specific belief set, it must be false.

 

In fairness, I can understand hesitancy to trust the media because I don't trust a single news source today. Not one.

 

The CDC, Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, etc. are a different story though.

What about being courteous to me not wanting to wear a mask? This goes both ways. I'm more of a believer in the effectiveness of social distancing.

 

Those who are dead set on wearing masks this is a real situation that I have witnessed at every store I've been in. At a grocery store, there was an individual in the same isle as myself. This individual had a mask on but around their neck so mouth and nose were not covered. As I was about to walk past them they put their mask on. So now all things this individual touched from this point on could be deemed contaminated.

 

So, yeah. No mask for me. I'll continue to wash my hands a lot and to keep my distance from people.

 

My response would be: what is the worst if I'm wrong about why we should wear masks?

 

And what is the worst if you're wrong about not wearing one?

What about being courteous to me not wanting to wear a mask? This goes both ways. I'm more of a believer in the effectiveness of social distancing.

 

Those who are dead set on wearing masks this is a real situation that I have witnessed at every store I've been in. At a grocery store, there was an individual in the same isle as myself. This individual had a mask on but around their neck so mouth and nose were not covered. As I was about to walk past them they put their mask on. So now all things this individual touched from this point on could be deemed contaminated.

 

So, yeah. No mask for me. I'll continue to wash my hands a lot and to keep my distance from people.

 

If I can do something simple for the greater good of all people that doesn't infringe on my rights, or cause me great anguish, I'm probably going to do it. Wearing a mask is so simple, and just a little something we all can do. Do some people make mistakes while wearing them, or wear them incorrectly? Yep. But just because someone screws up while wearing it, it doesn't mean that they won't help if I do the right things.

My response would be: what is the worst if I'm wrong about why we should wear masks?

 

And what is the worst if you're wrong about not wearing one?

 

Both ways, with or without masks there is and will be viral spread. Earlier I posted a link (not in this thread) that there is a disproportionate amount of healthcare workers who were wearing masks that still contracted the virus.

Both ways, with or without masks there is and will be viral spread. Earlier I posted a link (not in this thread) that there is a disproportionate amount of healthcare workers who were wearing masks that still contracted the virus.

 

Sure, masks aren't 100% successful in stopping the virus from spreading, but they greatly reduce the chances versus not wearing one at all.

What about being courteous to me not wanting to wear a mask? This goes both ways. I'm more of a believer in the effectiveness of social distancing.

 

Those who are dead set on wearing masks this is a real situation that I have witnessed at every store I've been in. At a grocery store, there was an individual in the same isle as myself. This individual had a mask on but around their neck so mouth and nose were not covered. As I was about to walk past them they put their mask on. So now all things this individual touched from this point on could be deemed contaminated.

 

So, yeah. No mask for me. I'll continue to wash my hands a lot and to keep my distance from people.

 

I think that is a fair question to ask - what about courtesy to you not wanting to wear a mask. My answer there goes to my smoking analogy above. There are a lot of people who would like to smoke inside, but they don't do it. Sometimes you give a little to be respectful and courteous to others.

 

Your response above is good if you are determined not to wear a mask.

I can feel my brain biggening from all the awesome science being referred to in this thread.

 

Masks help stop spread. That's it.

 

The CDC says so. Johns Hopkins says so. The Mayo clinic says so.

 

What's the problem here?

 

The WHO says no masks.

 

And Fauci made it clear previously - masks are not good.

 

 

 

Personally, no mask. I carried a Veterans Crisis Line bandana in my pocket will making the runs this weekend - just in case anyone made an issue of it.

 

I noticed employees who where working hard with their mask down - for good reason - they could not breath and get enough 02 for the tasks they were doing. Masks are restrictive to natural body operation. To imply they should be worn for extended period (i.e. 8 hours an employee working in home and garden would do) is silly at best - dangerous at worst.

Okay, I will bite. The average non-mask wearer will whip the average mask wearer every day of the week and twice on Sunday. In other words, keep your mouth shut behind that mask or it probably is not going to end well for you.

 

The best I can tell a N95 mask doesn't even completely stop this virus and anything lesser is a joke and a false sense of security.

 

You heard the man, shut up and do what you are told!

 

What I am fearful of is defiance and disrespect leading to altercations. Carrying on with my smoking analogy, if you walk into some place smoking a cigarette and they ask you to either put it out or leave, people today would do one of those two. They would not loudly shout, "I'm smoking and if you don't like it do something about it", and keep shopping. Why can't not wearing a mask to be treated the same way as smoking by everyone, including the smoker/no masker?

What I am fearful of is defiance and disrespect leading to altercations. Carrying on with my smoking analogy, if you walk into some place smoking a cigarette and they ask you to either put it out or leave, people today would do one of those two. They would not loudly shout, "I'm smoking and if you don't like it do something about it", and keep shopping. Why can't not wearing a mask to be treated the same way as smoking by everyone, including the smoker/no masker?

 

With smoking we have very defined laws.

 

Back to masks, I doubt many non-mask wearers care what other people do, the problem you are describing is "moral high ground mask wearers" running their mouths.

 

Again, keep your mouth shut behind that mask or it probably is not going to end well for you.

I'm just wondering if there was this type of outrage when the first person suggested you use a tissue or arm sleeve to cover your nose/mouth every time you sneezed/coughed. What nerve!

The WHO says no masks.

 

And Fauci made it clear previously - masks are not good.

 

 

 

Personally, no mask. I carried a Veterans Crisis Line bandana in my pocket will making the runs this weekend - just in case anyone made an issue of it.

 

I noticed employees who where working hard with their mask down - for good reason - they could not breath and get enough 02 for the tasks they were doing. Masks are restrictive to natural body operation. To imply they should be worn for extended period (i.e. 8 hours an employee working in home and garden would do) is silly at best - dangerous at worst.

 

Last I saw, the WHO's position on masks was that they weren't taking one and deferring to national health organizations to make their own recommendations, which takes us to the CDC, which recommends masks in areas where social distancing is difficult.

 

I don't know the context of that clip of Fauci, but in that context, he's not wrong. It's also not what we're talking about. He also uses the term "perfect protection", which obviously isn't what we're talking about either. Maybe some context of when he said that and why would be helpful.

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