Jumper_Dad Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 UM may well be #2, but not allowing the Pac10/SEC/BEast/ACC a chance to prove themselves is ridiculous. IMO, Arkansas (should they win out) deserves a shot more than anyone. They lost their opener to the #2/3 team in the land and have improved dramatically since. I guess this may be the best argument, but I do not see the Hogs winning out so I think this is a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boucher Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 UM had their chances and was given the chances by Ohio State. I am a fan of neither but think in a rematch, unless Ohio State self destructs as they did on Saturday, this game is not close. Ohio State made more big plays in Michigan's behalf than Michigan did. They don't fumble twice on snaps and don't have a huge penalty to sustain the last drive and OSU wins by over two TD's. I agree 100% on every point (other than I am an OSU fan). You and I watched the same game. :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5wide Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 If Michigan and Ohio State do play in the title game and Michigan were to win, how can that not be a split National title? My argument would be that Michigan won the "Title" game on a neutral field, whereas OSU's win over Michigan would have come in a regular season game on their home field. If they rematch, and Michigan wins, then they will and should be the unanimous national champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 UM may well be #2, but not allowing the Pac10/SEC/BEast/ACC a chance to prove themselves is ridiculous. Everyone THINKS that OSU and UM are the two best, but having them play again proves nothing. Give Florida/Arkansas/Rutgers/USC/ND/BSU a chance to prove that OSU isn't all they're cracked up to be. If OSU puts a beat down on them, then OSU and UM should be ranked 1 and 2 in the final polls. You have to allow the possibility that another team (especially USC/Florida/Arkansas since UM beat ND and OSU beat Texas) COULD be better. By REPLAYING a game thats ALREADY BEEN PLAYED, nothing is learned. UM/OSU aren't going to change dramatically between now and the title game. Arkansas HAS changed dramatically since their only loss. IMO, Arkansas (should they win out) deserves a shot more than anyone. They lost their opener to the #2/3 team in the land and have improved dramatically since. It could be argued that Arkansas blew their shot when McFadden dislocated his toe in a bar fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Rookie Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 It could be argued that Arkansas blew their shot when McFadden dislocated his toe in a bar fight... One reason why you should never try to kick someone in a bar fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latch Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 If Michigan gets a rematch and win the game by one on a bad call who is the champion? I know the BCS has to go to the winner of the game, but what about the polls? Michigan has one good win and had their chance to beat OSU. Let someone else do it. Just because USC has played close games and lost by two on the road to a team not as good as Ohio State doesn't mean they don't deserve to be in the title game if they win out. If they beat the SEC champion, the Big 12 champion, ND, and win their conference they have a valid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggerphelps Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Plus USC's SOS was stronger than Arkansas' this season if I remember the last SOS I saw. I think they were #2. Houston Nutt has to be kicking himself for trying to be a passing team in that game instead of just feeding McFadden. They changed strategies after that game and have been much better. Did McFadden play against USC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 If Michigan gets a rematch and win the game by one on a bad call who is the champion? I know the BCS has to go to the winner of the game, but what about the polls? Michigan has one good win and had their chance to beat OSU. Let someone else do it. Just because USC has played close games and lost by two on the road to a team not as good as Ohio State doesn't mean they don't deserve to be in the title game if they win out. If they beat the SEC champion, the Big 12 champion, ND, and win their conference they have a valid argument. I think you make a great point about a rematch game. It is a no win situation for OSU. They win and they had already beat them. If they don't, they can make a good argument that they should be co-champs. All of the pressure is on OSU in this game. UM had their chance and couldn't get it done. Give USC or Florida if they win out a chance. Now USC and Florida loses and Arkansas loses to LSU. I can better see a rematch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockPride Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Better than Michigan and USC? :confused: I didn't say that, I just said it would be hard to overlook, being that they would the only team OTHER than Ohio State (BCS Conferences) to go undefeated in their conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just 4 fun Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 to be the #2 team in the nation? How can the #2 team in the nation not be the team whose only loss is @ the #1 team in the nation by 3 points? USC-loses to Oregon St. Florida-loses to Auburn Arkansas-loses to USC Notre Dame-loses to Michigan Rutgers-loses to Cincinnati Louisville-loses to Rutgers West Virginia-loses to Louisville Isn't it obvious? :confused: My only problem with it is Michigan had it's opportunity and didn't win..Then if they play each other again and Mich were to win, the OSU would cry foul and want to play a rubber match...If OSU wins again, then everyone will cry foul that were on the outside looking in and didn't get the opportunity...To me, it would be a BCS nightmare and I don't think they will allow they want that at all....Secondly, the BCS always uses the reason that a playoff system takes away from the regular season, as each week is by all rights, a playoff game....Wouldn't a rematch be a contradiction to everything they promote now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 My only problem with it is Michigan had it's opportunity and didn't win..Then if they play each other again and Mich were to win, the OSU would cry foul and want to play a rubber match...If OSU wins again, then everyone will cry foul that were on the outside looking in and didn't get the opportunity...To me, it would be a BCS nightmare and I don't think they will allow they want that at all....Secondly, the BCS always uses the reason that a playoff system takes away from the regular season, as each week is by all rights, a playoff game....Wouldn't a rematch be a contradiction to everything they promote now... Where have you seen the BCS promote this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Arkansas may not be any better today with their revolving qb situation. which begat If you can't see the significance in the difference of Arkansas from beg. to end then you aren't as smart as you seem on here. The Arkansas passing game was 5 for 20 against LSU. They curtain was pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEERFAN Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 If USC wins out they deserve to be #2, a loss to (8-4) OSU @ OSU, missing a two point conversion to win the game. UM is a very good team but what happens if they beat OSU, are they champs since they beat the Bucks??? Whey should OSU have to beat UM twice to win a title, they've already beaten UM, UM shouldn't be the champs just because they won the rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I'll be able to stomach USC in the NC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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