January 24, 20179 yr Worked for a company in Fresno for many years, and much of California would love to divorce themselves from SoCal & the Bay area as well. While those areas do pay a good deal of the taxes, much is via the tourist route; and they take out much more in benefits, etc., and suck out a tremendous amount of resources from the state. I've no idea, but would think with their massive population base CA pays a good deal into the federal coffers as well; but if the true toll of their take outs, along with the massive debt of CA; we might just be OK if they start their own country? We could always make $$'s by charging them for their defense too??
January 24, 20179 yr Not exactly what this thread is about but since the topic is about California I'll share it. I read an article today, when I was googling around, that Califirnia has more registered voters (almost 19 million) than the entire population in 46 of the states. That's what skewed the popular vote totals in the November election. Obviously not all 19 million voted, but the Democrats outnumber the Republicans 2-1 in the state. Only around 20% of the Republicans voted because most of them realized that their vote didn't matter, Clinton was going to win the state regardless. However, the Democrats came out and voted in large percentages. So, due to the enormous population of California compared to other states (39 million) California delivers a huge advantage in popular vote to the Democratic candidate. Add the fact that the Republicans put very little money or effort into the state to generate more votes and the result is a lopsided difference. Also, according to the article, if there had not been an electoral college system in place but instead a popular vote, Trump would have actually run much better in California because more Republicans (and Independents for Trump) would have made the effort to have voted. The article said he would have just as likely won the presidency in a popular vote as an electoral college due to the fact the dynamics of the campaign strategy would have changed. I just thought this was an interesting take because there has been so much talk about Clinton winning the popular vote. The Republican base not getting out to vote in California, and possibly the other Pacific coast states, is certainly a possible reason for the discrepancy. A popular vote election would actually have increased the Republican vote.
January 24, 20179 yr You don't get to leave this Hotel California :walk: I saw what you did there. :thumb:
January 24, 20179 yr 33% in a vote that has only two choices is not a good result. We've had the point that polls are useless and inaccurate thrown at us since November. Now it seems, suddenly it's ok to listen to polls.
January 24, 20179 yr Not exactly what this thread is about but since the topic is about California I'll share it. I read an article today, when I was googling around, that Califirnia has more registered voters (almost 19 million) than the entire population in 46 of the states. That's what skewed the popular vote totals in the November election. Obviously not all 19 million voted, but the Democrats outnumber the Republicans 2-1 in the state. Only around 20% of the Republicans voted because most of them realized that their vote didn't matter, Clinton was going to win the state regardless. However, the Democrats came out and voted in large percentages. So, due to the enormous population of California compared to other states (39 million) California delivers a huge advantage in popular vote to the Democratic candidate. Add the fact that the Republicans put very little money or effort into the state to generate more votes and the result is a lopsided difference. Also, according to the article, if there had not been an electoral college system in place but instead a popular vote, Trump would have actually run much better in California because more Republicans (and Independents for Trump) would have made the effort to have voted. The article said he would have just as likely won the presidency in a popular vote as an electoral college due to the fact the dynamics of the campaign strategy would have changed. I just thought this was an interesting take because there has been so much talk about Clinton winning the popular vote. The Republican base not getting out to vote in California, and possibly the other Pacific coast states, is certainly a possible reason for the discrepancy. A popular vote election would actually have increased the Republican vote. Try making that argument with a staunch liberal and their head will explode at the notion.
January 24, 20179 yr Saw a poll where 62% of Californians are in favor of eliminating sanctuary cities.. Good start at getting back to reality..
January 24, 20179 yr Not an Eagles or California fan...:idunno: tough Eliminate the threat then. Smash California if they try to leave. Start with the Kardashians. No. You leave the Kardashians alone. Word up.
January 24, 20179 yr Try making that argument with a staunch liberal and their head will explode at the notion. Pretty simple for this staunch liberal. Scoreboard. HRC won the CA popular vote going away, and that was a big factor in winning the national popular vote. Scoreboard. DJT won the electoral vote. Probably in part due to the fact that there are states that, like the flip side of CA, are overwhelmingly conservative and that don't generate "useless" liberal votes.
January 24, 20179 yr Pretty simple for this staunch liberal. Scoreboard. HRC won the CA popular vote going away, and that was a big factor in winning the national popular vote. Scoreboard. DJT won the electoral vote. Probably in part due to the fact that there are states that, like the flip side of CA, are overwhelmingly conservative and that don't generate "useless" liberal votes. Votes = Yards Electoral Vote = Points on the Scoreboard If football was played to get the most yards, then HRC would have won the Super Bowl, but it isn't. Hard to argue that she should have won the game, when in the end, you don't play for yards.
January 24, 20179 yr Votes = Yards Electoral Vote = Points on the Scoreboard If football was played to get the most yards, then HRC would have won the Super Bowl, but it isn't. Hard to argue that she should have won the game, when in the end, you don't play for yards. Absolutely correct. Just pointing out that the flip side of CA's popular vote results in light of the EC system could have been somewhat counterbalanced by the popular vote in staunch conservative/Republican states. Nothing more, nothing less. PS. Head still intact.:lol:
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