Not sure where the confusion is with this issue. Three top playing starters played VARSITY basketball at another school before CHOOSING Simon Kenton. Heck, Harney was literally shopping schools this summer. I'm a fan of SK getting better but the unfortunate consequence is players who have always been in SKs system get bumped down another notch. Gilliam (see above post) being the most recent unfortunate one. Besides the players that stay in the starting lineup it's understandable that others would feel disappointed in some ways with this. It's certainly understandable that people looking from the outside in would make judgements. But in the end SK will have two years of strong runs at the state tourney. And months from now that's all people will be talking about

 

Gilliam among others may very well find their way back in the starting lineup. The good news is that your coaches have options. Options make your players work harder to get in the starting lineup and rotation. Working harder makes you a better player.

I found that when my kids played that I had to remain positive with them and encourage them to work. In the end, they are all grown and thankfully very successful and I would like to think these lessons helped them along that path.

 

Don't sale your coaches short, encourage your kids to work hard and enjoy the opportunity and blessing it is to play on a talented team. Sometimes is the parents that are more upset than the kids. If your a parent, take a deep breath and pull for all the players on the team.

As Jesse James said.... enjoy the ride!!!

Then why aren't they knocking on the doors I don't want to speculate. I know that Coach Stowers has been getting calls for several of his players. Not only calls but I have personally seen college coaches in the gym at SK games could they be looking at other teams I would like to think yes but these are not recruiters but Head Coaches showing up to the gym.

 

College coaches are in the gym because they are already on the kid. Not because of coach Stowers.

 

I've had college coaches at my practices and games too that I never met until they introduced themselves!

Love Gilliam's heart and defense, been a starter (2) years and now a sub, I hate it for her as she has won a region with Simon as a starter. One of the reasons why I hate new kids arriving, unfair to the ones who have sacrificed, she will be fine because she is a great kid and teammate

 

She's being exposed to what life is like at times. I don't see a problem with that.

Love Gilliam's heart and defense, been a starter (2) years and now a sub, I hate it for her as she has won a region with Simon as a starter. One of the reasons why I hate new kids arriving, unfair to the ones who have sacrificed, she will be fine because she is a great kid and teammate

 

I swore I was gonna stay out of this but I would like some clarification...what do you mean when you said "unfair to the ones who have sacrificed"? That comment keeps sticking out to me.

College coaches are in the gym because they are already on the kid. Not because of coach Stowers.

 

I've had college coaches at my practices and games too that I never met until they introduced themselves!

 

You let random folks into your practice and you don't know who they are?

You let random folks into your practice and you don't know who they are?

 

We practice outside in a city park!

We practice outside in a city park!

 

All that money spent on those private football and basketball masterpieces and you are in a public park. Dang. ?

All that money spent on those private football and basketball masterpieces and you are in a public park. Dang.

 

Well we get to use the plush field house in the winter!

 

And we have arguably the best field in NKY! Didn't used to be the case though!

Well we get to use the plush field house in the winter!

 

And we have arguably the best field in NKY! Didn't used to be the case though!

 

......but who has the best press box/concessions/"players lounge"? :whistling:

College coaches are in the gym because they are already on the kid. Not because of coach Stowers.

I've had college coaches at my practices and games too that I never met until they introduced themselves!

 

 

Now hold on a minute. I'm usually with you on most things, but you do NOT know that to be the case and certainly not in every case. I don't know Coach Stowers personally so I don't know what he does or doesn't do for or with his players but I'm certainly willing to give the benefit of the doubt here.

Now hold on a minute. I'm usually with you on most things, but you do NOT know that to be the case and certainly not in every case. I don't know Coach Stowers personally so I don't know what he does or doesn't do for or with his players but I'm certainly willing to give the benefit of the doubt here.

 

You can insert any coach's name you want in there. Other than very small local schools, colleges just don't recruit from high school anymore. It's no different at SK. If a big school is in a high school gym, 99.99% of the time it's because they already discovered the kid and they are "courting" her or him. The reason you see big schools in there now are for two reasons. Neice and Harney. Bigger schools just don't show up at practice and high school games to recruit randomly. If they are there, they are there to see someone they are already on the trail of...in almost every case. Everyone can come on here and give me an exception, but the norm is what I'm describing .

 

Let me ask you this...Niece used to play for Scott. If she would have stayed at Scott, are you saying that she wouldn't have the same exposure she has now? No, the recruiters would be in Scott's gym instead of SK.

 

Harney is a JR and has a lot of interest...do you think her stock just went up because she transferred to SK??? No! They are in the gym because those kids are in the gym. Not because of who their coach is. And almost every high school coach had very little to do with the kids foundational skills. So I'm not buying that kids go to a certain school because of the exposure or what that coach can do to help them get in college. Do some coaches have relationships with college coaches...sure! But at the end of the day, that recruiters job depends on the quality of players they pull in. So they are going to make the right decision for their program...regardless if a high school coach is their best buddy!

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You are taking extreme liberties with my response. I made no such inferences about any player or anyone's status as to where they are or were attending school. That wasn't even my point. I have personal, first hand, repeated experience with high school and AAU-type coaches who make college contacts for players and many, many experiences with those same college coaches (or programs) showing interest and even visiting. I did not say, nor even intimate, that any attention is the result of anything, only that you do not know if the interest STARTED with a coach's reference, phone call. email. whatever. Clearly you do not like the guy, that's painfully obvious, but throwing shade on the guy because of assumptions is poor. Not your style. You may be right, I don't know, and neither sir do you, for sure.

You are taking extreme liberties with my response. I made no such inferences about any player or anyone's status as to where they are or were attending school. That wasn't even my point. I have personal, first hand, repeated experience with high school and AAU

 

I don't know him and have no idea what kind of guy he is. Clearly you didn't see where I said "insert any coach's name". I'm not debating him, I'm debating the fact the fact that people say "well I transferred here because of the coach and the success they have. I'm saying he and others have no real advantage over several other coaches, so why do kids transfer to SK. If you're telling me it's because of the staff, I'm not buying it because there are plenty of staffs that are just as good and just as qualified. The high school coach can help make contacts and if he does that's great. But that's about the extent of it. And if you're good, you won't need your high school coach to make contacts because you're already getting looked at because of AAU. So in essence, even if your high school coach has several contacts, at the end of the day its whether the kid can play or not. And if the kid can play, they would get discovered anyway!

 

All I'm debating is that if people are saying they are transferring because a certain high school coach has a better chance to get you a scholarship, 95% of the time that is a myth. Has nothing to do with Stowers. Again, insert just about any name you want.

Once again great job on the win lady Pioneers!

You can insert any coach's name you want in there. Other than very small local schools, colleges just don't recruit from high school anymore. It's no different at SK. If a big school is in a high school gym, 99.99% of the time it's because they already discovered the kid and they are "courting" her or him. The reason you see big schools in there now are for two reasons. Neice and Harney. Bigger schools just don't show up at practice and high school games to recruit randomly. If they are there, they are there to see someone they are already on the trail of...in almost every case. Everyone can come on here and give me an exception, but the norm is what I'm describing .

 

Let me ask you this...Niece used to play for Scott. If she would have stayed at Scott, are you saying that she wouldn't have the same exposure she has now? No, the recruiters would be in Scott's gym instead of SK.

 

Harney is a JR and has a lot of interest...do you think her stock just went up because she transferred to SK??? No! They are in the gym because those kids are in the gym. Not because of who their coach is. And almost every high school coach had very little to do with the kids foundational skills. So I'm not buying that kids go to a certain school because of the exposure or what that coach can do to help them get in college. Do some coaches have relationships with college coaches...sure! But at the end of the day, that recruiters job depends on the quality of players they pull in. So they are going to make the right decision for their program...regardless if a high school coach is their best buddy!

 

Dude you're kidding me right??? You think that there is no exposure difference at SK then at Scott???

 

Look at the past couple of years with different tournaments that the schools have been in

 

SK has been playing in the LexCath Tournament since I think this is 5 or 6 years maybe even longer. Which is traditionally an invitational, tournament with huge exposure to college programs, SK is in one of the biggest tournaments in the state this year with the LIT,

 

I don't see where you would even think of there is no exposure difference at. As for your other comment I don't know what type of exposure MC has done with Harney, I am sure she has already gotten offers on the table,

 

But what you are describing is completely insane Playing games that make your team better and getting out there in the view of other programs is what you fight for.

Just take a look at SK's Schedule besides conference, region, and district games that they have to play who do you see on their schedule, Other top programs from around the state, They play the Mercer Co., Sacred Hearts, Elizabethtowns, Scott Co.'s. they don't schedule it safe and build the record up. The prepare for a run for the state tournament.