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State Championship Games are a Joke

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But all of the schools are playing in their appropriate classes? It doesn't make sense to move up in class for 99.8% of the schools that are playing.

 

If you use school enrollment ONLY, then yes all are playing in their appropriate classes. However, again, this should be only one of several factors determining the class for each school. You have to remember that not only should schools move up, but others should move down. It would take the KHSAA to get off their butts and do a little work (this seems to be the end all be all). 99.8% isn't even close. I would guess more like 65 to 75%.

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If you use school enrollment ONLY, then yes all are playing in their appropriate classes. However, again, this should be only one of several factors determining the class for each school. You have to remember that not only should schools move up, but others should move down. It would take the KHSAA to get off their butts and do a little work (this seems to be the end all be all). 99.8% isn't even close. I would guess more like 65 to 75%.

 

To be fair to the KHSAA there are schools moving up and down next season which is 2 years before the next scheduled realignment.

Play the 5A and 6A games at a neutral site (WKU), the rest are played at the highest seeded team remaining in classification.

 

NO HOME GAMES for state titles. Neutral sites can be used and applied for seasons ahead of time. There are plenty of 5A or 6A schools who won't be using their field that weekend that are centrally located, and capable of hosting these games.

It's weird. Folks want their team to be dominant but when their team is getting dominated then it is a problem.

 

It's soooooo weird. Blows my mind. I heard one lady yesterday say in regards to one of the head coaches of a team that "Well, he doesn't really coach. His assistants do. He's just the figure head and makes adjustments at halftime I think. I mean, he's too old to really coach."

 

...and, her husband sat there agreeing with her like this lady she just cracked the code.

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I may be wrong, but I do believe that whoever hosts the championship events; Rupp Arena, WKU, NKU, Bellarmine, etc...... they sell their own concessions. The KHSAA isn't in the food service business, at least they weren't when I was doing AD work @ a high school.

 

The bigger joke is that they charge $6 for sodas and $5 for a small cup of mediocre popcorn.

 

Heck, they even charge college coaches who show up to recruit players.

 

It's all about the dolla dolla bill playa.

NO HOME GAMES for state titles. Neutral sites can be used and applied for seasons ahead of time. There are plenty of 5A or 6A schools who won't be using their field that weekend that are centrally located, and capable of hosting these games.

 

There are enough small colleges around the state that there could easily be neutral site games that aren't at a high school.

 

Having it at the highest seeded team could often be a huge logistical issue. A home game between, Tilghman or Caldwell and Belfry? Somebody just made a 7 hour drive. That's not cool.

 

 

If anything, I'd have the lower class teams at a neutral site and then the larger schools have the home field advantage. 1, 2 and 3A could all easily be held at some of the smaller colleges, without a doubt.

There are enough small colleges around the state that there could easily be neutral site games that aren't at a high school.

 

Having it at the highest seeded team could often be a huge logistical issue. A home game between, Tilghman or Caldwell and Belfry? Somebody just made a 7 hour drive. That's not cool.

 

 

If anything, I'd have the lower class teams at a neutral site and then the larger schools have the home field advantage. 1, 2 and 3A could all easily be held at some of the smaller colleges, without a doubt.

 

Seeding the semi-states is probably the only way to avoid this

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Colorado does this. Two largest classifications that can generate the most fans and revenue, play at a college or pro stadium, the rest are played at the highest remaining seeds home field, creates great excitement and atmosphere for the hosting team. Teams are also seeded by an RPI system at the beginning of the playoffs.

CHSAA first became interested in using an RPI system when searching for a way to standardize all postseason qualification processes. It was also used by the football committee in 2015 as a component to the seeding criteria, following a presentation and suggestion from community members. The RPI formula is used by both the NCAA and NAIA, among other organizations, as part of their postseason system. In August, CHSAA's board of directors mandated that all committees use RPI for postseason qualification. Committees have been implementing the system ever since, with some using it as a seeding criteria, as well.

 

How are the components of the formula specifically calculated?

◦Winning percentage (WP): Divide the number of wins by the number of total games played. A tie is worth half a win. If a win in an individual contest gives that contest a winning percentage of 1.00, a tie would give that individual contest a winning percentage of .500 for both teams.

◦Opponents' winning percentage (OWP): Average the winning percentages of a team's opponents. (Note: This is not calculated via the combined record of the opponents, instead by averaging each winning percentage of the opponents.) All games involving the team whose RPI is being calculated are ignored in this process.

◦Opponents' opponents winning percentage (OOWP): The same process as described above, except calculated for the opponents of a team's opponents. Note that there is an exception for out-of-state teams, which is addressed below.

 

When calculating out-of-state opponents, their direct winning percentage (for example, .750) will count toward the formula, but each of their opponents will have a .500 winning percentage assigned. Were this not the case, schools would be chasing tens of thousands of opponents of out-of-state opponents over the course of a season, and there is no way to ensure the accuracy of that data. The .500 figure was selected because it is the average value of opponents' opponents winning percentages across all sports in the data we've run.

I may be wrong, but I do believe that whoever hosts the championship events; Rupp Arena, WKU, NKU, Bellarmine, etc...... they sell their own concessions. The KHSAA isn't in the food service business, at least they weren't when I was doing AD work @ a high school.

 

Actually, those facilities don't run the concessions either. Concessions at large venues are typically run by 3rd parties contracted by the facility through a bidding process. Yes they get a cut of the concession money, but aren't involved in the day to day running.

If you use school enrollment ONLY, then yes all are playing in their appropriate classes. However, again, this should be only one of several factors determining the class for each school. You have to remember that not only should schools move up, but others should move down. It would take the KHSAA to get off their butts and do a little work (this seems to be the end all be all). 99.8% isn't even close. I would guess more like 65 to 75%.

 

Moving up and down on a year to year basis would cause scheduling problems on a district level, as districts would be continually changing.

I may be wrong, but I do believe that whoever hosts the championship events; Rupp Arena, WKU, NKU, Bellarmine, etc...... they sell their own concessions. The KHSAA isn't in the food service business, at least they weren't when I was doing AD work @ a high school.

 

If only Bellarmine had a football team and stadium.

Ok, let me restate my post. I have been involved as a host to a state tournament event & the concessions were ran by a booster club for a local team that kept all of the $$$$ for their respective team, so in essence we are both correct.

 

Actually, those facilities don't run the concessions either. Concessions at large venues are typically run by 3rd parties contracted by the facility through a bidding process. Yes they get a cut of the concession money, but aren't involved in the day to day running.

I was speaking of KHSAA championships as a whole, not just football, but I agree with you @PepRock01

 

If only Bellarmine had a football team and stadium.

6 teams didnt think they were a joke.

Who gets the concession money. Is it split with the teams?

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