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Should Court System Get Involved In This Playoff Game?

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The state association needs to handle it. Not the courts.

 

This I would agree with. If the state association had said it's a correctable error then so be it, they didn't.

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Extremely unfortunate but just can't t the courts decide these things. It is the IHSAA's responsibility.

Just give all who participated a trophy and tell them they're all winners

So essentially the offense is being rewarded for committing a foul. I guess this is just one of the few loopholes that can be found in each sport. I mean if you see the film, once Plainfield saw a flag they were excited (like me, you and everyone else) thinking "well heck yes now we will get a chance to score".

 

If the officials never have been in this situation then I guess I could see them

Assuming like the rest of us. Doesn't make it right though. I wonder how long it took until both teams realized their was a mistake made? Time fram after the game? This could be on the HC from Fenwick for not knowing the rules (assuming he didn't call TO and confront the official). I wonder what was said at the coin toss for OT? Anyone in the stands try to get word the coaches? The guys on the broadcast sure seemed to believe it would be an untimed down. Crazy crazy

So essentially the offense is being rewarded for committing a foul. I guess this is just one of the few loopholes that can be found in each sport. I mean if you see the film, once Plainfield saw a flag they were excited (like me, you and everyone else) thinking "well heck yes now we will get a chance to score".

 

If the officials never have been in this situation then I guess I could see them

Assuming like the rest of us. Doesn't make it right though. I wonder how long it took until both teams realized their was a mistake made? Time fram after the game? This could be on the HC from Fenwick for not knowing the rules (assuming he didn't call TO and confront the official). I wonder what was said at the coin toss for OT? Anyone in the stands try to get word the coaches? The guys on the broadcast sure seemed to believe it would be an untimed down. Crazy crazy

 

I think the Coach had to know the rule because he had the QB just toss a high incomplete pass to end the game.

If he truly did (which I don't know) I believe he would've been adamantly discussing this with the officials before the Plainfield team lined up to kick. Perhaps intentional grounding never even crossed his mind.

So essentially the offense is being rewarded for committing a foul. I guess this is just one of the few loopholes that can be found in each sport. I mean if you see the film, once Plainfield saw a flag they were excited (like me, you and everyone else) thinking "well heck yes now we will get a chance to score".

 

If the officials never have been in this situation then I guess I could see them

Assuming like the rest of us. Doesn't make it right though. I wonder how long it took until both teams realized their was a mistake made? Time fram after the game? This could be on the HC from Fenwick for not knowing the rules (assuming he didn't call TO and confront the official). I wonder what was said at the coin toss for OT? Anyone in the stands try to get word the coaches? The guys on the broadcast sure seemed to believe it would be an untimed down. Crazy crazy

 

Wouldn't have mattered if the HC knew the rule. You aren't going to change the officials minds once they believe they are correct. You could pull the rules out and show them in black and white and it wouldn't matter. In most cases once an official has made a call they aren't backing off that call no matter what is said. Unfortunately it is a pride thing. That is more important than getting the call right.

Plainfield North loses in championship game 26-13.

 

Can't help but think there was a little bit of karma here.

NFL doesn't reverse the outcomes of games after the fact.

NCAA doesn't either @ any level

NAIA doesn't

Ju-co schools......nope

 

So why did they think they had a shot at all of getting a judge to reverse this single outcome. The above listed is prior precedent enough to see that it wasn't going to happen.

 

It's an unfortunate case of events, but human error is part of the game. Until the officials are robots & where the ball gets marked on the field is controlled by GPS we will just have to go with it & learn to live another day.

 

Very unfortunate to these kids & this team, but the world isn't perfect no matter what.

I'm all for replay, appeals, etc. The important thing is to get it right. If you have the information to get it right, use it. This "human error is part of the game" is crap.

 

Get it right.

The rule states the official's decisions are final.

 

And, for those saying 'the game was over' are false. The official declares the game over and leaves the field when it's over. Until then, they still maintain jurisdiction on the playing surface.

 

Did they 'misapply' a rule? Yes. They ruled a 'defensive penalty extended the game' to an offensive play. But, how is that different than if it happened in the first half? Imagine it was 10-7 with :00 left in the 2nd quarter and Plainfield North was given a free play, scored, and maintained their 14-10 lead the entire second half?

 

If you argue that the situation is 'different' because Fenwick had 24 minutes of the second half to overcome the official's mistake, then you fail to realize that Fenwick had the entire overtime to overcome the official's mistake.

 

In the end, Fenwick is upset because they 'thought they had won', while if it happened in the second quarter, they wouldn't have.

 

That's the only difference.

The rule states the official's decisions are final.

 

And, for those saying 'the game was over' are false. The official declares the game over and leaves the field when it's over. Until then, they still maintain jurisdiction on the playing surface.

 

Did they 'misapply' a rule? Yes. They ruled a 'defensive penalty extended the game' to an offensive play. But, how is that different than if it happened in the first half? Imagine it was 10-7 with :00 left in the 2nd quarter and Plainfield North was given a free play, scored, and maintained their 14-10 lead the entire second half?

 

If you argue that the situation is 'different' because Fenwick had 24 minutes of the second half to overcome the official's mistake, then you fail to realize that Fenwick had the entire overtime to overcome the official's mistake.

 

In the end, Fenwick is upset because they 'thought they had won', while if it happened in the second quarter, they wouldn't have.

 

That's the only difference.

 

Apples and oranges. One scenario has time left in the game. This one does not. The overtime should not have happened. The rest of regulation is always going to happen after any penalty. This was Easy to overturn for the IHSA. Also, precedent was that he IHSA did overturn a soccer game with the same scenario years earlier.

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