November 20, 20169 yr We do agree it won't happen, but it will take a public outcry. I think Trump and surrogates are checking the pulse of the nation. If the nation would buy in, get ready.No, it won't take a public outcry. Many of Trump's statements were deliberately vague during the campaign in order to generate free publicity. He consistently made outrageous statements, was invited to countless interviews, during which he clarified (or denied) what he said that earned him free media attention. I did not like the tactic during the campaign, but it is the reason that he was able to spend so much less money on his campaign than Hillary Clinton did. Was the tactic dishonest? Sure it was, but he was running against a crook. Voters were not offered an honest alternative by the Democrats. You can blame Trump for that if you want, but Trump had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton's nomination. Considering that the Democratic Party felt the need to cheat to deliver its nomination to a truly horrible candidate in Hillary Clinton, and then outspent the opposition by a 2 to 1 margin in an attempt to buy the election, Democrats should save some of their outrage for their own party.
November 20, 20169 yr Is it empty promises because he doesn't want it or that Americans won't let it happen? I would think it would be both. PE Trump has a bad habit of thinking out loud, he'll need to break that habit or it will keep him in hot water.
November 20, 20169 yr Yes. Fear mongering. I said why, no need to repeat. Habib may be the smartest cat on this board to you, I've seen others who rival him and that's not an insult, just how I see it. Habib leans quite to the left and his opinions (and they're simply that) don't resonate with everyone. He is a smart guy, he's not always right. Yes he is. He leans left and is still the most open minded cat on this board. By far.
November 20, 20169 yr No, it won't take a public outcry. Many of Trump's statements were deliberately vague during the campaign in order to generate free publicity. He consistently made outrageous statements, was invited to countless interviews, during which he clarified (or denied) what he said that earned him free media attention. I did not like the tactic during the campaign, but it is the reason that he was able to spend so much less money on his campaign than Hillary Clinton did. Was the tactic dishonest? Sure it was, but he was running against a crook. Voters were not offered an honest alternative by the Democrats. You can blame Trump for that if you want, but Trump had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton's nomination. Considering that the Democratic Party felt the need to cheat to deliver its nomination to a truly horrible candidate in Hillary Clinton, and then outspent the opposition by a 2 to 1 margin in an attempt to buy the election, Democrats should save some of their outrage for their own party. Hillary Clinton lost. I hate it. I have accepted it. You seem to be struggling. Today we ask the question of President elect Trump: do you mean what you said? The Muslim registry comments came back to life when a surrogate used the American precedent of Japanese internment to justify a future Muslim registry. Unfortunately this is a topic of fear for many, which contributes to the tumultuous national mood.
November 20, 20169 yr Yes he is. He leans left and is still the most open minded cat on this board. By far. There are other smart, open minded people on this board as well. They just don't necessarily fall in like with your perception of things. Perhaps you think he's so open minded and "the smartest cat on this site" because he and you agree on things?
November 20, 20169 yr If you guys think there is not a Muslim registry already you are nuts. They are talking about Radical Muslims. Its laughable we are even having this conversation. Trump is taking away all the first born will be next. SMH.
November 20, 20169 yr Hillary Clinton lost. I hate it. I have accepted it. You seem to be struggling. Today we ask the question of President elect Trump: do you mean what you said? The Muslim registry comments came back to life when a surrogate used the American precedent of Japanese internment to justify a future Muslim registry. Unfortunately this is a topic of fear for many, which contributes to the tumultuous national mood. It's a topic of fear because of liberal fear mongering. Most rational people understand that most campaign rhetoric, particularly from surrogates, is just that - rhetoric. Blunders by Democrats cost them the election. Maybe instead of spending so much time with fat cat Wall Street donors, Hillary Clinton should have spent more time campaigning and posing these questions to Donald Trump. She lost. Democrats lost. Democrats should be angry at the DNC for the loss. Instead, they are turning off even more potential voters by behaving like sore losers again.
November 20, 20169 yr If you guys think there is not a Muslim registry already you are nuts. They are talking about Radical Muslims. Its laughable we are even having this conversation. Trump is taking away all the first born will be next. SMH. There is a Muslim Registry? Is there a Radical Christian registry? Here is the difference: Trump did not say taking the first born was a good plan. He did say a Muslim registry was something his administration would do.
November 20, 20169 yr Did you believe that the candidate for whom you voted would do everything he or she promised to do while campaigning? If so, then that makes zero sense. Neither one of the major candidates was honest and trustworthy, and none of the third-party candidates had any chance to make good on their campaign promises. I didn't vote for Clinton, but I expected her to pursue the things she said she would. I didn't expect her to accomplish everything, just like Obama and Bush didn't, but I expected that to be the agenda. This notion that candidates just talk and then govern in a totally different manner is mistaken. They usually try to do what they campaigned on, at least until prevailing winds change. The idea that Trump was "just talking" or that "he can't" do what he said he would is like plugging your ears and shouting so you don't have to hear the music.
November 20, 20169 yr There is a Muslim Registry? Is there a Radical Christian registry? Here is the difference: Trump did not say taking the first born was a good plan. He did say a Muslim registry was something his administration would do. Have you spoken out against the ongoing IRS persecution of conservative Christian groups under the Obama administration?
November 20, 20169 yr I didn't vote for Clinton, but I expected her to pursue the things she said she would. I didn't expect her to accomplish everything, just like Obama and Bush didn't, but I expected that to be the agenda. This notion that candidates just talk and then govern in a totally different manner is mistaken. They usually try to do what they campaigned on, at least until prevailing winds change. The idea that Trump was "just talking" or that "he can't" do what he said he would is like plugging your ears and shouting so you don't have to hear the music. How about you cite all those new gun control laws we have now. Show us the new "assault weapon" ban we have that Obama wanted. Plugging your ears and shouting so you don't have to hear the music indeed.
November 20, 20169 yr I didn't vote for Clinton, but I expected her to pursue the things she said she would. I didn't expect her to accomplish everything, just like Obama and Bush didn't, but I expected that to be the agenda. This notion that candidates just talk and then govern in a totally different manner is mistaken. They usually try to do what they campaigned on, at least until prevailing winds change. The idea that Trump was "just talking" or that "he can't" do what he said he would is like plugging your ears and shouting so you don't have to hear the music. So, you actually believed that Hillary Clinton was going to attempt to deliver a "free" college education to every student whose parents earned less than $125,000/year and that she would "not add one penny to the debt?" If so, your faith in a crooked candidate was remarkable.
November 20, 20169 yr There is a Muslim Registry? Is there a Radical Christian registry? Here is the difference: Trump did not say taking the first born was a good plan. He did say a Muslim registry was something his administration would do. You want a Christian registry, I'll be the first to sign up. I'm not ashamed or afraid. I see what's happening and already know what will happen. There is a war on Christianity whether people want to admit it or not. Who has committed more murders or terrorist act in name of religion in last 5 years. Christians or Muslims
November 20, 20169 yr There is a Muslim Registry? Is there a Radical Christian registry? Here is the difference: Trump did not say taking the first born was a good plan. He did say a Muslim registry was something his administration would do. Hellcats I think we all know what he was talking about. 10:1 to you or anyone else we already have what he is talking about in place. Any takers. Probably been in place since right after 9/11. The left, I am going to quit saying all Democrats as some of my friends that are Dems say they have nothing in common with what the left wing of the Democrat party has become, is doing exactly what they are now being accused of. Fear mongering and a mass attack on all and any Trump talking points, the nominees for the inner circle etc. I said it in another post. You all lost, the far liberal left, not Democrats, and now you want to name these appointees to his cabinet and its a joke. The Republicans are 180 degrees different than the liberal left wing of the Democrats and whether you like it or not its coming. And unless your side, the far left liberals change your stance, its gonna be a long time for you guys cause you are gonna lose more and more of the centrist Democrats.
November 20, 20169 yr There are other smart, open minded people on this board as well. They just don't necessarily fall in like with your perception of things. Perhaps you think he's so open minded and "the smartest cat on this site" because he and you agree on things? False. I don't always agree with him. That's my whole point. I'm not claiming to be close to the top 25 smartest people on this board but I am not stupid by any stretch of the imagination. Habib and Getslow challenge my thought process more than any two people on here. I agree with them on a lot but not everything. GETSLOW VOTED FOR HILLARY!!!!! The intelligence they display when they speak is evident and that attracts me to their posts. Watching people respond and deflect their questions is always fun and eye opening. Dino Nova challenges me as well and I don't agree with anything he says. He makes me think and he challenges my thoughts. Dino challenges me to evaluate why I think and feel the way I do and as a result I have to figure out why I feel a certain way. That's what I want from people. Is it a plus if I agree with them? Absolutely. But to discredit what they say because you don't agree with them is disingenuous. Especially if you look at what they say and how they say it.
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