For once I actually agreed with something that Greeny on Mike & Mike said this morning.

 

They were talking about this whole situation and he said he hears a lot of people saying, "It's his right to do it, I just wish he would've done it a different way", and what he thinks they're really saying is "I really wish he would've picked a different way to go about this, because it would've been easier to ignore what he's saying" because the method CK chose has made it very hard for the people who aren't interested in the conversation to ignore it.

 

Except it isn't true but it's easy way to push back on dissent.

Except it isn't true but it's easy way to push back on dissent.

 

Maybe not for everyone, but I'm of the opinion that a large number of people feel that way.

Maybe not for everyone, but I'm of the opinion that a large number of people feel that way.

 

Strictly an opinion like you said to me the other day with no facts to back it up.

Maybe not for everyone, but I'm of the opinion that a large number of people feel that way.

 

Don't you realize by now that if he doesn't think it's so, it isn't?

The systemic and institutionalized imprisonment of black men. The inner cities were flooded with narcotics as the only means of survival for black men. The streets were flooded with narcotics and at the same time the War on Drugs was at its height. The government allowed Noriega and many others to flood America with their product and the only place to sell their products was in the inner cities. At the same time that these drugs were flooding the inner cities and destroying the fabric of the black family jail sentencing changed and many states adopted a Three Strikes You're Out for repeat offenders meaning if you are found guilty of a crime three times then you go to jail for life regardless of what the crime is. Many many many people are in jail for life because of the Three Strikes You're Out sentences.

 

Crack cocaine sentencing vs powder cocaine sentencing also helped put many people away and the disparity behind that is mind boggling when you look at how it works. Get caught with a couple of grams of powder for your first time and you get probation. Get caught with one crack rock your first time and you go to jail for a mandatory 3-5 years. A couple of grams of powder cocaine will make you a pretty good amount of crack rocks. You won't find powder cocaine in the inner cities the way you'll find crack rock in the inner cities.

 

Nobody black is bringing the narcotics into the inner cities. That's all foreign countries. Not enough has ever been done to stop the influx of narcotics into the inner city. Narcotics is the only business in inner cities. There's nothing else there. The school suck, the neighborhoods suck, the policemen work their tails off but continually get nowhere because they don't have enough help or resources to stop the influx of drugs into the inner cities. Drugs in the inner cities have become a big business. As have private prisons. You know there are more black men in prison than in college? Did you know more black men have spent time in jail than they have in a college classroom?

 

When discussing how the schools of the inner city need to be made a priority so a quality education can be received by everyone in the inner city someone said that we can't just throw money at everything. The only money being thrown at the inner cities is drug money and it has been that way since the 1980s.

 

To me, that's oppression.

 

I can agree with some of what you said. I'm not gonna lie PP92, I can't help but think you're doing your best MtnRef impression with some of it lol.

I can agree with some of what you said. I'm not gonna lie PP92, I can't help but think you're doing your best MtnRef impression with some of it lol.

 

:lol2:

 

 

I consider Mountainref a friend and someone I text with on occasion. We may be polar opposites and not agree on much but we both like and respect each other a ton. I truly believe everything I have said. I've felt this way for decades. When looking at the history of our country it makes too much sense for it to be false. It will never be totally proven and it is a helluva conspiracy. When looking at who, what, when and where have gotten rich and powerful as a result I can't help but feel like it is a huge scheme so perfect that no one would ever believe it. The people who enacted these laws after the influx of drugs knew what they were doing. I'll always believe that.

What happened to those free blacks?

A lot of them that lived in the south were made officers in the Confederate army..

A lot of them that lived in the south were made officers in the Confederate army..

 

Makes sense.

Don't you realize by now that if he doesn't think it's so, it isn't?

Isn't that true for everyone? If I state an opinion and you don't agree, doesn't that mean you don't think it's so? Greeny stated an opinion. He has no facts to back it up. Either you agree or you don't. Me agreeing and Lipton disagreeing doesn't make Greeny any less right or wrong. His opinion can't be proven fact.

I buy into it.

 

I don't.

 

We can agree to disagree. :thumb:

The systemic and institutionalized imprisonment of black men. The inner cities were flooded with narcotics as the only means of survival for black men. The streets were flooded with narcotics and at the same time the War on Drugs was at its height. The government allowed Noriega and many others to flood America with their product and the only place to sell their products was in the inner cities. At the same time that these drugs were flooding the inner cities and destroying the fabric of the black family jail sentencing changed and many states adopted a Three Strikes You're Out for repeat offenders meaning if you are found guilty of a crime three times then you go to jail for life regardless of what the crime is. Many many many people are in jail for life because of the Three Strikes You're Out sentences.

 

Crack cocaine sentencing vs powder cocaine sentencing also helped put many people away and the disparity behind that is mind boggling when you look at how it works. Get caught with a couple of grams of powder for your first time and you get probation. Get caught with one crack rock your first time and you go to jail for a mandatory 3-5 years. A couple of grams of powder cocaine will make you a pretty good amount of crack rocks. You won't find powder cocaine in the inner cities the way you'll find crack rock in the inner cities.

 

Nobody black is bringing the narcotics into the inner cities. That's all foreign countries. Not enough has ever been done to stop the influx of narcotics into the inner city. Narcotics is the only business in inner cities. There's nothing else there. The school suck, the neighborhoods suck, the policemen work their tails off but continually get nowhere because they don't have enough help or resources to stop the influx of drugs into the inner cities. Drugs in the inner cities have become a big business. As have private prisons. You know there are more black men in prison than in college? Did you know more black men have spent time in jail than they have in a college classroom?

 

When discussing how the schools of the inner city need to be made a priority so a quality education can be received by everyone in the inner city someone said that we can't just throw money at everything. The only money being thrown at the inner cities is drug money and it has been that way since the 1980s.

 

To me, that's oppression.

For the sake of the discussion let's just say everything above is correct.

 

What about today? Do you believe the government is still allowing the influx of drugs into the inter cities? At what point does the black community have say no more and break the cycle?

 

And not to nit pick but Frank Lucas was black and he brought drugs into the inter city.

For the sake of the discussion let's just say everything above is correct.

 

What about today? Do you believe the government is still allowing the influx of drugs into the inter cities? At what point does the black community have say no more and break the cycle?

 

And not to nit pick but Frank Lucas was black and he brought drugs into the inter city.

 

It's too big of a machine to stop at this point. If we got rid of all drugs on the planet today and they never came back then there would be all kinds of craziness happening. Drugs is a part of the society so much at this point that I don't think it is possible to escape it without legalizing drugs. Stopping drugs would affect prisons, police officers, local economies....far reaching consequences. Possibly even foreign policy.

 

Seriously, what can the black community do other than arm themselves and go to war with the gangsters running the inner city?

 

Frank Lucas used the help of the US Military to smuggle drugs into the country. When he was caught he went to work for the government didn't he? That just further proves my point about the government allowing the influx of drugs into inner cities.

And someone on Twitter sent him a tweet saying they hope his family is killed by cops.

 

'Murica.

 

There are idiots of all kinds on twitter. Including those cheering for dead police.

There are idiots of all kinds on twitter. Including those cheering for dead police.

 

Agreed.

It's too big of a machine to stop at this point. If we got rid of all drugs on the planet today and they never came back then there would be all kinds of craziness happening. Drugs is a part of the society so much at this point that I don't think it is possible to escape it without legalizing drugs. Stopping drugs would affect prisons, police officers, local economies....far reaching consequences. Possibly even foreign policy.

 

Seriously, what can the black community do other than arm themselves and go to war with the gangsters running the inner city?

 

Frank Lucas used the help of the US Military to smuggle drugs into the country. When he was caught he went to work for the government didn't he? That just further proves my point about the government allowing the influx of drugs into inner cities.

 

Working with individuals are completely different than the government enacting a secret policy that targets black people. Also, do economic factors contribute? As others have pointed out, poor regions with a predominately white population have drug problems as well. Was it more with socio-econ status than color?