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cwheeler116

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I spent 3 days at the state tourney this weekend. My daughter plays for madisonville and they had a great run. Let me prefix this post by saying that umpires did not cost us the state championship, we were simply beat by a better team in Scott county and McCracken. But the umpiring I saw this weekend at the state tourney was horrendous. These are supposed to be the best in the state...if they are the best, I am afraid to see much worse. I seen catchers digging fastballs out of the dirt and getting strikes called. I seen an umpire not put the ball back in play after a foul ball and let the pitcher throw a strike while the batter was not back in the box. I seen umpire let crow Hop go all game and then calls illegal pitch on final out to keep other team in it. Pitches for some could be at the shoulders and other the entire ball had to be on the white part of the plate to get a strike called. Can anyone guess what happens when you give good hitters balls on the white part of the plate...they get crushed. There needs to be real review done on officials. I umpired baseball for years and missed my fair share of calls, but I was watching the play and was in position, these guys were mostly watching the games. During region we had a girl get called out for not tagging up, the umpire told our coach he saw she was four feet from the bag. After reviewing the video she was clearly still on the bag. Fact is he got caught watching the ball in the outfield when it wasn't his call. Like I said before, it didn't cost us, but it's not fair to the players. Let them decide their own fate, and not have horrible officiating cost them an opportunity.

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I spent 3 days at the state tourney this weekend. My daughter plays for madisonville and they had a great run. Let me prefix this post by saying that umpires did not cost us the state championship, we were simply beat by a better team in Scott county and McCracken. But the umpiring I saw this weekend at the state tourney was horrendous. These are supposed to be the best in the state...if they are the best, I am afraid to see much worse. I seen catchers digging fastballs out of the dirt and getting strikes called. I seen an umpire not put the ball back in play after a foul ball and let the pitcher throw a strike while the batter was not back in the box. I seen umpire let crow Hop go all game and then calls illegal pitch on final out to keep other team in it. Pitches for some could be at the shoulders and other the entire ball had to be on the white part of the plate to get a strike called. Can anyone guess what happens when you give good hitters balls on the white part of the plate...they get crushed. There needs to be real review done on officials. I umpired baseball for years and missed my fair share of calls, but I was watching the play and was in position, these guys were mostly watching the games. During region we had a girl get called out for not tagging up, the umpire told our coach he saw she was four feet from the bag. After reviewing the video she was clearly still on the bag. Fact is he got caught watching the ball in the outfield when it wasn't his call. Like I said before, it didn't cost us, but it's not fair to the players. Let them decide their own fate, and not have horrible officiating cost them an opportunity.

 

Amen you said it all, I agree with you 100%.

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Don't assume that the umpires you see at the State tournament are "the best of the best".....that is not necessarily true by a long shot. Some regions are the best, others are not even evaluated throughout the course of the season.

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I spent 3 days at the state tourney this weekend. My daughter plays for madisonville and they had a great run. Let me prefix this post by saying that umpires did not cost us the state championship, we were simply beat by a better team in Scott county and McCracken. But the umpiring I saw this weekend at the state tourney was horrendous. These are supposed to be the best in the state...if they are the best, I am afraid to see much worse. I seen catchers digging fastballs out of the dirt and getting strikes called. I seen an umpire not put the ball back in play after a foul ball and let the pitcher throw a strike while the batter was not back in the box. I seen umpire let crow Hop go all game and then calls illegal pitch on final out to keep other team in it. Pitches for some could be at the shoulders and other the entire ball had to be on the white part of the plate to get a strike called. Can anyone guess what happens when you give good hitters balls on the white part of the plate...they get crushed. There needs to be real review done on officials. I umpired baseball for years and missed my fair share of calls, but I was watching the play and was in position, these guys were mostly watching the games. During region we had a girl get called out for not tagging up, the umpire told our coach he saw she was four feet from the bag. After reviewing the video she was clearly still on the bag. Fact is he got caught watching the ball in the outfield when it wasn't his call. Like I said before, it didn't cost us, but it's not fair to the players. Let them decide their own fate, and not have horrible officiating cost them an opportunity.

 

Just an FYI for you...the plate is 17 inches wide, there is only "white" on the plate...any part of the ball that crosses the the plate in the legal strike zone, defined by the forward cup of the front armpit to the break of the knee is a legal strike...

 

Balls that do not cross the plate in the zone mentioned above are just that...balls, not strikes...that does not mean that a ball outside this area is not a good pitch, just not a strike...

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