January 15, 201610 yr Wallace and Trump are/were both segregationists. They both wish/wished to exclude certain types of people from Main Street America. Garbage.
January 15, 201610 yr If Trump is doing well because he is dividing people by " code words" he must have stolen and studied the democrat playbook and decided its worked dang well the past 20 years and chose to apply what he learned . No one has perfected that like the dems . " they gonna feed your grandma dog food .. they gonna poison your water .. they gonna take your health care " , and could go on for pages and pages
January 15, 201610 yr Let's not forget that there also was a populist side to old Dixiecrats such as George Wallace, Lester Maddox and others. So when Trump says he wants to bring back manufacturing jobs from China, etc., he's tapping into that as well. In other words, there's more to this Wallace-Trump comparison than just exclusionary policies and fiery rhetoric. Good thread topic. More garbage.
January 15, 201610 yr Author Agreed, VERY tiresome. So you don't believe politicians (not just Mr Trump) use code words?
January 15, 201610 yr Garbage. Both Trump and Wallace appeal to the same class of people. (Check out who voted for Wallace for president in '68.) Both peddle fear of "other types of people" with fiery rhetoric. If you don't think that Trump is a segregationist, what's that wall on the Rio Grande about?
January 15, 201610 yr More garbage. I actually gave Trump sort of an attaboy in that post. I know your hate runs deep, but you might want to actually read the posts before spewing garbage.
January 15, 201610 yr Both Trump and Wallace appeal to the same class of people. (Check out who voted for Wallace for president in '68.) Both peddle fear of "other types of people" with fiery rhetoric. If you don't think that Trump is a segregationist, what's that wall on the Rio Grande about? That would be the same barrier that Hillary supports to improve border security. Is Hillary a segregationist?
January 15, 201610 yr You are spot on Clyde. You are comparing tactics/strategies, nothing else. They both play to Americans perceived and real fears (depending on your mindset). This isn't about Obama either. He basically is a lame duck and positioned to make his millions. But anyone that says what is perceived as a negative towards a "R", Obama is always the comeback. Tiring, divisive and ineffective by the way. Again, the strategies were and are similar. No one is saying it is negative, just how the were and are playing the game.
January 15, 201610 yr Author If Trump is doing well because he is dividing people by " code words" he must have stolen and studied the democrat playbook and decided its worked dang well the past 20 years and chose to apply what he learned . No one has perfected that like the dems . " they gonna feed your grandma dog food .. they gonna poison your water .. they gonna take your health care " , and could go on for pages and pages If your point is playing on fear is a political tradition then we agree. However, your examples are not code words. "Food-stamp President" is a code word. "Right wing" can be code. "American values" has become a code word. They're not going away for one reason - they work.
January 15, 201610 yr Hadn't made the connection before but this one could get interesting. Enough similarities to make for a healthy debate.
January 15, 201610 yr Author You are spot on Clyde. You are comparing tactics/strategies, nothing else. They both play to Americans perceived and real fears (depending on your mindset). This isn't about Obama either. He basically is a lame duck and positioned to make his millions. But anyone that says what is perceived as a negative towards a "R", Obama is always the comeback. Tiring, divisive and ineffective by the way. Again, the strategies were and are similar. No one is saying it is negative, just how the were and are playing the game. I almost typed "if Trump wins his strategy will become a playbook" but I think he's the point now where even if he doesn't win it has worked well enough to be come the playbook.
January 15, 201610 yr Author Hadn't made the connection before but this one could get interesting. Enough similarities to make for a healthy debate. My goal. Get past the shock of comparing him to a world-class racist and look at the actual debate. Then if you disagree, fine. You considered the real debate. As I always tell people and just told MTGL this week: I could not care less what your opinion is in a debate. I just want it to have some thought and logic behind it.
January 15, 201610 yr It's been the playbook for decades. Blacks, immigrants, gays, homophobes, religious right, war on women, etc. Name me a candidate that hasn't/doesn't use the same strategies.
January 15, 201610 yr If your point is playing on fear is a political tradition then we agree. However, your examples are not code words. "Food-stamp President" is a code word. "Right wing" can be code. "American values" has become a code word. They're not going away for one reason - they work. American values is a code word? In what world? The problem is there are real examples of code words it's just over used hyperbole to attach to someone who you disagree with. Make America Great Again is no more a code word than Hope and Change. They both have the same message , each candidate just has different ideas on how to get there.
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