August 11, 201511 yr Will he have a 1st amendment argument to get his job back? I would say doubtful. Protection from prosecution, but not protection from consequences is how I've always thought it went.
August 11, 201511 yr I would say doubtful. Protection from prosecution, but not protection from consequences is how I've always thought it went. It will have to go through the FOP.
August 11, 201511 yr I have a REALLY HARD TIME supporting #blacklivesmatter when I see members and supporters carrying around our flag upside down. Another person was carrying around an upside down flag w/ Michael Brown's name on it. Really? Brown is going to be the patron saint of this movement? Please. I stand behind the overall theme of Black Lives Matter. Police brutality needs to be addressed. There is still bigotry and racism in this country. That being said, if you want me to respect your message, disrespecting symbols of this country won't win me to your side. Not taking care to help police solve black on black violence will not win me to your side. INCONSISTENCY in what is being sought, will not win me to your side.
August 11, 201511 yr Supporting a cause with Michael Brown as the poster boy for sure turns me off. Also looting, destroying, and stealing from your local businesses dont help.
August 11, 201511 yr As one of our left leaning posters said in the Republican debate thread, "maybe these people need to move to another country"
August 11, 201511 yr It's going to take a hell of a lot more than a new chief and a change in leadership to rebuild the trust. The issue is they don't trust that going to the police will accomplish anything. Why do you keep saying they need to rebuild the trust? It seems to me that it's not soley a trust issue but they are using the trust issue as an excuse to continue being thugs. The rioters don't care or want police in the area period. They want to go on and do whatever they want to do and if they are stopped by police then all of a sudden it is a police brutality or mis trust situation when in reality if they wouldn't break the law in the first place they wouldn't have to worry about the police in the first place. Maybe, just maybe it's the community that needs to change so that the police can start trusting the citizens of Ferguson and not the other way around. Edited August 11, 201511 yr by Hellbird
August 11, 201511 yr I have a REALLY HARD TIME supporting #blacklivesmatter when I see members and supporters carrying around our flag upside down. Another person was carrying around an upside down flag w/ Michael Brown's name on it. Really? Brown is going to be the patron saint of this movement? Please. I stand behind the overall theme of Black Lives Matter. Police brutality needs to be addressed. There is still bigotry and racism in this country. That being said, if you want me to respect your message, disrespecting symbols of this country won't win me to your side. Not taking care to help police solve black on black violence will not win me to your side. INCONSISTENCY in what is being sought, will not win me to your side. I agree. However the upside down flag is long seen as a symbol of distress by the flag code. I can see why it is upside down because of what they are "Saying" is there message. Don't care for anyone's image on the flag but upside down has its place in the past.
August 11, 201511 yr As one of our left leaning posters said in the Republican debate thread, "maybe these people need to move to another country" No doubt. That's what I plan to do and I don't have any beef with America.
August 11, 201511 yr No doubt. That's what I plan to do and I don't have any beef with America. My dream is to move to St. Maarten some day....
August 11, 201511 yr My dream is to move to St. Maarten some day.... We plan to move to St. Bart's. :thumb:
August 11, 201511 yr My dream is to move to St. Maarten some day.... We plan to move to St. Bart's. :thumb: St. Lucia for us...It's unbelievable how reasonable housing (and quite large houses at that) are in those island countries.
August 11, 201511 yr St. Lucia for us...It's unbelievable how reasonable housing (and quite large houses at that) are in those island countries. Yeah, but good's are extremely expensive. Make sure that you can garden. That will save you big time. Also, energy prices are through the roof, so say good bye to air conditioning and you will be ok
August 11, 201511 yr Well, you heard of St. Croix? We're going to the island just to the left of it... ...Ted's.
August 11, 201511 yr Why do you keep saying they need to rebuild the trust? It seems to me that it's not soley a trust issue but they are using the trust issue as an excuse to continue being thugs. The rioters don't care or want police in the area period. They want to go on and do whatever they want to do and if they are stopped by police then all of a sudden it is a police brutality or mis trust situation when in reality if they wouldn't break the law in the first place they wouldn't have to worry about the police in the first place. Maybe, just maybe it's the community that needs to change so that the police can start trusting the citizens of Ferguson and not the other way around. As one from St. Louis I can tell you for a fact the mistrust has been around a very long time. It is not a new thing. I can remember distinctly my older brothers and parents telling me that when we go through Ferguson we had to be careful if we were stopped by the police. That was almost 50 years ago. The last time I was there was in 1998 for the funeral of my mother that was held in Ferguson. Also when I heard that the St. Louis County police were going to investigate what happened last year I laughed. My wife asked me why I was laughing. I said the St. Louis County police were worst than the Ferguson police.
August 11, 201511 yr Well, you heard of St. Croix? We're going to the island just to the left of it... ...Ted's.
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