HUGE difference between that and a Capitol building flying a flag continuously.

FWIW I never said it was a capitol, I just said some government buildings.

I stated somewhere on BGP before this thread that I couldn't believe SC still flies the flag.

 

With that, I question the motive behind this new legislation. I'm not sure it's being done for the right reason. Doesn't feel right.

FWIW I never said it was a capitol, I just said some government buildings.

Any comparison is apples and cement blocks.

Does anyone follow New Orleans Saints Benjamin Watson on Facebook? He had the absolute best take on the subject today. I shared it on my timeline, too.

If someone's only symbol of southern pride is a Confederate flag then they are missing out.

What would be an appropriate symbol to show that you are proud that you are from the south? This young man said he studied the issues from both sides and just doesn't see it the way you do.

What would be an appropriate symbol to show that you are proud that you are from the south? This young man said he studied the issues from both sides and just doesn't see it the way you do.

 

 

Maybe a riverboat or a banjo, or a jazz trumpeter.

You don't know what your missing out on.

 

Corn dogs are all right, nothing to write home about, though.

 

Wait a minute...

What would be an appropriate symbol to show that you are proud that you are from the south? This young man said he studied the issues from both sides and just doesn't see it the way you do.

I'm sure that this one young man sees it differently. I'm sure that Benjamin Watson that I referenced above sees it differently than this guy does, too.

Any chance anyone has every flown that flag or put it on their truck just because they were proud to be a southerner. That flag for better or worse has been a symbol of the south for our entire lives. Some people rightly or wrongly just look at it as a symbol of the south and not as a racist symbol.

 

This guy looks at it differently...

http://www.wbtv.com/story/16173687/student-wins-fight-to-hang-confederate-flag-in-dorm-window

 

I have no doubt there are many people who earnestly believe that. There are plenty of reasons to be proud of being from the South. It's beautiful in most places, the culture is kinder and more genuine than most elsewhere, I'd rather have Southern cooking than just about anything else. And there are plenty of insulting stereotypes that get laid on you when you're from the South that it's nice to have something to be proud of instead of made to feel ashamed of.

 

I live on the East Coast now, but I am adamant about telling people I meet that I'm a Kentuckian. I've endured enough half-witted insults and sideways looks over the years when I tell people where I'm from that I relish it now. I can't wait to tell them how nice Kentucky is or "yes, I can read, do you want to have a spelling contest?"

 

But, being proud of where you're from can't be separated from the racism that flag has always represented.

 

When I was in high school I bought a Confederate flag at a flea market (I know, there are a million jokes there). I put it in my room, telling myself the same thing everyone else does: It's just about heritage! But, the more I read up on the Civil War and the cause of the people who raised that flag I realized how contrived my beliefs about it were. It came to a head when I realized one of my black friends might stop by and I'd have to square that flag with my beliefs in equality. I realized I couldn't do it if I was being genuine. I threw it in the trash. Since then I've studied a lot about slavery, the Civil War, civil rights, etc. and my opinion is certain: The flag is a symbol of racism.

 

I don't know why it's taken the country this long to reckon with it, but if this shooting is what causes people to come around, then so be it.

Edited June 24, 201511 yr by Habib

I have no doubt there are many people who earnestly believe that. There are plenty of reasons to be proud of being from the South. It's beautiful in most places, the culture is kinder and more genuine than most elsewhere, I'd rather have Southern cooking than just about anything else. And there are plenty of insulting stereotypes that get laid on you when your from the South that it's nice to have something to be proud of instead of made to feel ashamed of.

 

I live on the East Coast now, but I am adamant about telling people I meet that I'm a Kentuckian. I've endured enough half-witted insults and sideways looks over the years when I tell people where I'm from that I relish it now. I can't wait to tell them how nice Kentucky is or "yes, I can read, do you want to have a spelling contest?"

 

But, being proud of where you're from can't be separated from the racism that flag has always represented.

 

When I was in high school I bought a Confederate flag at a flea market (I know, there are a million jokes there). I put it in my room, telling myself the same thing everyone else does: It's just about heritage! But, the more I read up on the Civil War and the cause of the people who raised that flag I realized how contrived my beliefs about it were. It came to a head when I realized one of my black friends might stop by and I'd have to square that flag with my beliefs in equality. I realized I couldn't do it if I was being genuine. I threw it in the trash. Since then I've studied a lot about slavery, the Civil War, civil rights, etc. and my opinion is certain: The flag is a symbol of racism.

 

I don't know why it's taken the country this long to reckon with it, but if this shooting is what causes people to come around, then so be it.

 

It's been a good while since we've had a Habib sighting on here. Good first post back, man. :thumb:

Claiming that the Confederate flag isn't a symbol of racism is just dishonesty, IMO.

 

That's what it has always meant, that's what it will continue to mean.

What would be an appropriate symbol to show that you are proud that you are from the south? This young man said he studied the issues from both sides and just doesn't see it the way you do.

 

I'm proud of my German heritage. Before I moved to Louisville, I was a member of the Cincinnati Kolping Society - a society of German Catholics. There's no denying the fact that Germany has some extremely regrettable parts of it's history/heritage...and that's exactly why I did NOT use a nazi flag to celebrate it, and instead celebrate my German heritage with the German flag.

 

What's the problem with celebrating that you're from the south by showing off your state's flag on your license plates, bumper stickers, and t-shirts...or hell...how about even just getting a license plate, bumper sticker, or t-shirt that says, "Proud To Be From The South"?

It's been a good while since we've had a Habib sighting on here. Good first post back, man. :thumb:

 

No kidding. Board gets better when he posts.

I have no doubt there are many people who earnestly believe that. There are plenty of reasons to be proud of being from the South. It's beautiful in most places, the culture is kinder and more genuine than most elsewhere, I'd rather have Southern cooking than just about anything else. And there are plenty of insulting stereotypes that get laid on you when you're from the South that it's nice to have something to be proud of instead of made to feel ashamed of.

 

I live on the East Coast now, but I am adamant about telling people I meet that I'm a Kentuckian. I've endured enough half-witted insults and sideways looks over the years when I tell people where I'm from that I relish it now. I can't wait to tell them how nice Kentucky is or "yes, I can read, do you want to have a spelling contest?"

 

But, being proud of where you're from can't be separated from the racism that flag has always represented.

 

When I was in high school I bought a Confederate flag at a flea market (I know, there are a million jokes there). I put it in my room, telling myself the same thing everyone else does: It's just about heritage! But, the more I read up on the Civil War and the cause of the people who raised that flag I realized how contrived my beliefs about it were. It came to a head when I realized one of my black friends might stop by and I'd have to square that flag with my beliefs in equality. I realized I couldn't do it if I was being genuine. I threw it in the trash. Since then I've studied a lot about slavery, the Civil War, civil rights, etc. and my opinion is certain: The flag is a symbol of racism.

 

I don't know why it's taken the country this long to reckon with it, but if this shooting is what causes people to come around, then so be it.

 

I am so happy to see you back that I liked the post before I read it.

Okay, I read it.

 

And I still like it.