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If I'm Bruce and I have any couth at all, I don't show up for the award cause nothing good is probably going to come of it. I would also go a step further and contact the ESPY board and let them know they should look at awarding this to another, more deserving candidate.

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If I'm Bruce and I have any couth at all, I don't show up for the award cause nothing good is probably going to come of it. I would also go a step further and contact the ESPY board and let them know they should look at awarding this to another, more deserving candidate.

 

But this is exactly what he/she wants. Attention. Adoration.

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I think far too many people are confusing inspiration with courage. I mean, if I knew I was going to die from cancer, I'd do the same things I always do. I wouldn't say that is courageous. That's what most people would do, I think.

 

I wouldn't give the award to Hill any more than I would to Jenner. Neither inspired me to greater things. But Jenner is a face for a group that is struggling for recognition, whereas Hill was the poster child for an already strong movement. Is her story unbelievably sad? Without a doubt.

 

Someone will always disagree with who is getting an award. But Jenner being the first transgender athlete creates a much bigger impact on both sides of the discussion than Hill did.

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If I'm Bruce and I have any couth at all, I don't show up for the award cause nothing good is probably going to come of it. I would also go a step further and contact the ESPY board and let them know they should look at awarding this to another, more deserving candidate.

 

What bad would come from it? That is exactly what she wants. To bring attention to the issue and to help those coming after her.

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I think far too many people are confusing inspiration with courage. I mean, if I knew I was going to die from cancer, I'd do the same things I always do. I wouldn't say that is courageous. That's what most people would do, I think.

 

I wouldn't give the award to Hill any more than I would to Jenner. Neither inspired me to greater things. But Jenner is a face for a group that is struggling for recognition, whereas Hill was the poster child for an already strong movement. Is her story unbelievably sad? Without a doubt.

 

Someone will always disagree with who is getting an award. But Jenner being the first transgender athlete creates a much bigger impact on both sides of the discussion than Hill did.

Jenner is not the first, just the one associated with a hit TV show and Olympic medal.
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I think far too many people are confusing inspiration with courage. I mean, if I knew I was going to die from cancer, I'd do the same things I always do. I wouldn't say that is courageous. That's what most people would do, I think.

 

I wouldn't give the award to Hill any more than I would to Jenner. Neither inspired me to greater things. But Jenner is a face for a group that is struggling for recognition, whereas Hill was the poster child for an already strong movement. Is her story unbelievably sad? Without a doubt.

 

Someone will always disagree with who is getting an award. But Jenner being the first transgender athlete creates a much bigger impact on both sides of the discussion than Hill did.

 

As well as, how does this effect the lives of those crying about it? It doesn't! If Jenner wasn't even considered you could ask people a week after the award and no one will remember who won. Every group of people need others to look up to, even transgender people, such as that kid in Mason Ohio who stepped in front of a semi to end their life.

 

I don't see Hill's family crying about it, or any other person who was considered. How is Hill not winning not going to effect what she did? It won't! People just want to cry over anything and everything, they have nothing better to do than to complain.

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If I were ESPN I would come up with a new ESPY award named after Hill that is for non-professional athletes that would go to any player whose life was cut short but yet they competed as best they could. It would draw attention to whatever befell the young person and ESPN could kick in a donation to that cause.

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As well as, how does this effect the lives of those crying about it? It doesn't! If Jenner wasn't even considered you could ask people a week after the award and no one will remember who won. Every group of people need others to look up to, even transgender people, such as that kid in Mason Ohio who stepped in front of a semi to end their life.

 

I don't see Hill's family crying about it, or any other person who was considered. How is Hill not winning not going to effect what she did? It won't! People just want to cry over anything and everything, they have nothing better to do than to complain.

 

And they have common sense.

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Do,people watch the ESPY's?? I'm as big a sports fan as there is and haven't even come close to watching the show in years. Are the awards that prestigious and respected??

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I think far too many people are confusing inspiration with courage. I mean, if I knew I was going to die from cancer, I'd do the same things I always do. I wouldn't say that is courageous. That's what most people would do, I think.

 

I wouldn't give the award to Hill any more than I would to Jenner. Neither inspired me to greater things. But Jenner is a face for a group that is struggling for recognition, whereas Hill was the poster child for an already strong movement. Is her story unbelievably sad? Without a doubt.

 

Someone will always disagree with who is getting an award. But Jenner being the first transgender athlete creates a much bigger impact on both sides of the discussion than Hill did.

 

Are you being serious? Do you know what Lauren Hill did? The physical pain that she overcame to be able to go to class so that she would be eligible to even play during that first semester? Do you understand the effects of chemo on people. The fact that she attended every practice before the media storm and days after radiation and chemo b/c she wanted to be a part of the team is inspirational. It is also courageous.

 

I don't know how courageous Jenner is really. He lives in a fantasy world in LA. It is not like he was at his heyday and actually competing. He became a cartoon character during his reality TV days, and now is an afterthought. This isn't Michael Sams.

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As well as, how does this effect the lives of those crying about it? It doesn't! If Jenner wasn't even considered you could ask people a week after the award and no one will remember who won. Every group of people need others to look up to, even transgender people, such as that kid in Mason Ohio who stepped in front of a semi to end their life.

 

I don't see Hill's family crying about it, or any other person who was considered. How is Hill not winning not going to effect what she did? It won't! People just want to cry over anything and everything, they have nothing better to do than to complain.

 

You got me, Dude. I have nothing better to do...or I understand the struggles of what Hill overcame to do what she did. I may be complaining, or I may be just asking that the correct decision be made. ESPN is doing this to promote the event. That is all. It is an insult to the memory of Arthur Ashe. Ironically, on the website is a link to the V foundation. Hill did more for cancer research this past year than anyone else in the country. Yet, ESPN pushes it aside.

 

As for Hill's family, I admire them for not making a statement. I believe that I would do the same in that situation. However, I'm not in that situation and I feel like something needs to be said.

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