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Greatest athlete to never win a title? Team Sports

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He had a great arm and that was it.

 

And was the most prolific passer in NFL history until recently. He statistically the best QB until Favre, Manning and Elway reached the end of their careers, and is still top 5. And he wasn't the only great QB that didn't run much. I can't figure out what you are trying to say with this statement.

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What does it say about how much I think about sports when I saw the thread title and thought Ozzie Smith, not Ozzie Osborne?

Randall Cunningham

 

You are knocking on Marino, then throw up Cunningham? I love Rocking Randall but he ain't close to Marino.

Did Julius Erving win a title? ABA? NBA?

Roberto Clemente?

Did Julius Erving win a title? ABA? NBA?

Roberto Clemente?

 

Erving and the 76ers won in 1983, the year they picked up Moses Malone. Fo, Fo, Fo was Malone's prediction, and they missed it by one, sweeping all but the conference finals, losing one game to the Bucks.

 

Clemente's Pirates won the 1960 World Series on Mazeroski's walk off homer, and then again in 1971 against the Orioles.

I find it hard to do as someone that loathes the Red Sox, but Williams is probably the best all around hitter in history. Williams lost 4 1/2 years in the prime of his career to WWII.

 

On Base Percentage

Ted Williams - .482 (MLB Record)

Ty Cobb - .433

 

Slugging Percentage

Ted Williams - .634

Ty Cobb - .512

 

That said, Cobb is among the best of the best

482 OBP is just sick. No one will ever break that record.

Erving and the 76ers won in 1983, the year they picked up Moses Malone. Fo, Fo, Fo was Malone's prediction, and they missed it by one, sweeping all but the conference finals, losing one game to the Bucks.

 

Clemente's Pirates won the 1960 World Series on Mazeroski's walk off homer, and then again in 1971 against the Orioles.

Excellent info. Thank you.

I think it has to be Marino Bonds and Cobb. If any of these win 1 or 2 titles they may be considered the best in their respective sports all time.

You are knocking on Marino, then throw up Cunningham? I love Rocking Randall but he ain't close to Marino.

 

A like wasn't enough. I agree

I would like to make my top 5s

Baseball:

1. Ty Cobb (my list, Jumper :))

2. Barry Bonds

3. Ted Williams

4. Ken Griffey Jr.

5. Ernie Banks

 

NBA

1. Baylor

2. Malone

3. Ewing

4. Barkley

5. Miller

 

NFL

1. Marino

2. Tarkenton

3. Sanders

4. Butkus

5. Chris Carter

 

I had no idea Elgin retired before the '71/'72 title. 27/14/4 for his career.

Flynn Robinson and Charlie Paulk. (They were so good, Bob Cousey traded Oscar to get them in a Royals uniform.)

Against a lot of dead arms too :lol2:

 

Eddie Plank, Eddie Cicotte, Walter Johnson, Smoky Joe Wood... Come on. I'll grant your premise on Williams' stats, but to characterize the pitchers of Ty Cobb's era as anything less than what they were is hardly fair.

Charles Barkley came to mind first for me. Dan Marino next. Lots of other great names on here.

 

 

Barry Sanders doesn't count because he is a quitter.

Eddie Plank, Eddie Cicotte, Walter Johnson, Smoky Joe Wood... Come on. I'll grant your premise on Williams' stats, but to characterize the pitchers of Ty Cobb's era as anything less than what they were is hardly fair.

 

I'm not saying there weren't some greats, but there were a lot that weren't.

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