May 12, 201511 yr This generally gets thrown into a debate amongst friends. Player A can't be the greatest ever b/c his teams never won. I don't completely buy it, but I would like to have the debate. Greatest players ever w/out a title. In my mind, #1 is a baseball player as is #2 . 1. Ty Cobb 2. Barry Bonds (I don't care that he did 'roids.)
May 12, 201511 yr Nash, Barkley, Iverson and The Mailman in the NBA come to mind Ted Williams is by far the best MLBer to not win a championship, also Gwynn, Yaz and Banks along with those already mentioned. Barry Sanders in the NFL, also Jim Kelly and Marino
May 12, 201511 yr Author Nash, Barkley, Iverson and The Mailman in the NBA come to mind Ted Williams is by far the best MLBer to not win a championship, also Gwynn, Yaz and Banks along with those already mentioned. Barry Sanders in the NFL, also Jim Kelly and Marino See, Ted Williams, to me is not by far the best. Ty Cobb was voted by sports writers as the TOP player of the first 50 years of the 20th century, over Babe Ruth. Williams was one of the greatest hitters ever, but Cobb and Bonds were right there with him, or surpass him in many ways, namely on the base path.
May 12, 201511 yr See, Ted Williams, to me is not by far the best. Ty Cobb was voted by sports writers as the TOP player of the first 50 years of the 20th century, over Babe Ruth. Williams was one of the greatest hitters ever, but Cobb and Bonds were right there with him, or surpass him in many ways, namely on the base path. I find it hard to do as someone that loathes the Red Sox, but Williams is probably the best all around hitter in history. Williams lost 4 1/2 years in the prime of his career to WWII. On Base Percentage Ted Williams - .482 (MLB Record) Ty Cobb - .433 Slugging Percentage Ted Williams - .634 Ty Cobb - .512 That said, Cobb is among the best of the best
May 12, 201511 yr I find it hard to do as someone that loathes the Red Sox, but Williams is probably the best all around hitter in history. Williams lost 4 1/2 years in the prime of his career to WWII. On Base Percentage Ted Williams - .482 (MLB Record) Ty Cobb - .433 Slugging Percentage Ted Williams - .634 Ty Cobb - .512 That said, Cobb is among the best of the best This is definitely not the place for it, but I think when all is said and done we'll be able to make a very strong case for Miguel Cabrera as the greatest all-around hitter in baseball history.
May 12, 201511 yr I find it hard to do as someone that loathes the Red Sox, but Williams is probably the best all around hitter in history. Williams lost 4 1/2 years in the prime of his career to WWII. On Base Percentage Ted Williams - .482 (MLB Record) Ty Cobb - .433 Slugging Percentage Ted Williams - .634 Ty Cobb - .512 That said, Cobb is among the best of the best Ty Cobb played most if not all of his career in the dead ball era.
May 12, 201511 yr Ty Cobb played most if not all of his career in the dead ball era. Against a lot of dead arms too :lol2:
May 12, 201511 yr Author I would like to make my top 5s Baseball: 1. Ty Cobb (my list, Jumper ) 2. Barry Bonds 3. Ted Williams 4. Ken Griffey Jr. 5. Ernie Banks NBA 1. Baylor 2. Malone 3. Ewing 4. Barkley 5. Miller NFL 1. Marino 2. Tarkenton 3. Sanders 4. Butkus 5. Chris Carter
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