May 14, 201511 yr Ryne Sandberg. Thread is only about Great players...that alone disqualifies all Cubs except Banks!!!
May 14, 201511 yr Thread is only about Great players...that alone disqualifies all Cubs except Banks!!! Sandberg is just the best 2nd baseman of all time.
May 14, 201511 yr Sandberg is just the best 2nd baseman of all time. :lol::lol::lol::lol: wait, you were serious? #Hornsby #Morgan #Robinson Just jerking your chain Ref...Sanberg is one of the best!
May 14, 201511 yr :lol::lol::lol::lol: wait, you were serious? #Hornsby #Morgan #Robinson Just jerking your chain Ref...Sanberg is one of the best! I feel these 2 were always a toss up for best ever. Sandberg Batting average .285 Hits 2,386 Home runs 282 Runs batted in 1,061 10× All-Star (1984–1993) NL MVP (1984) 9× Gold Glove Award (1983–1991) 7× Silver Slugger Award (1984, 1985, 1988–1992) Joe Morgan Batting average .271 Hits 2,517 Home runs 268 Runs batted in 1,133 10× All-Star (1966, 1970, 1972–1979) 2× World Series champion (1975, 1976) 2× NL MVP (1975, 1976) 5× Gold Glove Award (1973–1977) Silver Slugger Award (1982)
May 14, 201511 yr The Mailman with Stockton and Ewing and Sir Charles have to be in the discussion. They couldn't overcome his Airness. And for all the haters, that is a pretty impressive list to overcome year in and year out.
May 14, 201511 yr I feel these 2 were always a toss up for best ever. Sandberg Batting average .285 Hits 2,386 Home runs 282 Runs batted in 1,061 10× All-Star (1984–1993) NL MVP (1984) 9× Gold Glove Award (1983–1991) 7× Silver Slugger Award (1984, 1985, 1988–1992) Joe Morgan Batting average .271 Hits 2,517 Home runs 268 Runs batted in 1,133 10× All-Star (1966, 1970, 1972–1979) 2× World Series champion (1975, 1976) 2× NL MVP (1975, 1976) 5× Gold Glove Award (1973–1977) Silver Slugger Award (1982) Rogers Hornsby Batting average .358 Hits 2,930 Home runs 301 Runs batted in 1,584
May 14, 201511 yr Rogers Hornsby Batting average .358 Hits 2,930 Home runs 301 Runs batted in 1,584 he is good too.
May 14, 201511 yr I'd throw Robby Alomar in the 2nd baseman hat. .300 BA 2724 hits 1134 RBI 210 HR 474 SB 12 time All-star 10 Golden Gloves
May 15, 201511 yr I like the thread, and agree with a lot of good names being thrown around. That said, I hate the premise of measuring an individual player's career based on how many championships won (or not won) in a TEAM sport. Ludicrous if you ask me. It's a team sport. It's about circumstances as much as anything. Marino in my mind is one of the best quarterbacks ever. I'm not sure how it's fault the Dolphins couldn't have run against the SEC in his time their, and their defense was brutal. Was he supposed to tackle and play halfback as well? Nolan Ryan won a title, but his best years as a pitcher were largely without even a playoff berth. Does that lessen how great he was in the 70's? Walter Payton won a Super Bowl, but his best year's were behind him. As great as he once was, Bears would have won in 85 without him. Should we hold him accountable because they didn't win it in say, 78? Steve Kerr won multiple NBA titles, does that make him a better shooting guard than Reggie Miller? I just don't think it's fair to measure how good a player was based at all on team championships.
May 15, 201511 yr That said, I will throw a few names out off the top of my head. NBA: George Gervin, Sidney Moncrief, Terry Cummings, Barkley, Mailman, Kevin Johnson NFL: Marino, pick a running back (Billy Simms, Earl Campbell, Erik Dickerson, Barry Sanders, very long list) guessing some hall-of-fame lineman didn't win a title, but alas they couldn't pass. MLB: You guys nailed a ton of them. Andre Dawson? Ripken? McCovey? Carew?
May 15, 201511 yr T That said, I will throw a few names out off the top of my head. NBA: George Gervin, Sidney Moncrief, Terry Cummings, Barkley, Mailman, Kevin Johnson NFL: Marino, pick a running back (Billy Simms, Earl Campbell, Erik Dickerson, Barry Sanders, very long list) guessing some hall-of-fame lineman didn't win a title, but alas they couldn't pass. MLB: You guys nailed a ton of them. Andre Dawson? Ripken? McCovey? Carew? Ripken won a WS in 1983 vs the Phillies (the year they had Rose, Morgan and Perez on the team and they were known as the Wheez Kids).
May 15, 201511 yr I'd throw Robby Alomar in the 2nd baseman hat. .300 BA 2724 hits 1134 RBI 210 HR 474 SB 12 time All-star 10 Golden Gloves I'd have to rate Alomar above Sandberg, and I loved Sandberg. I'm shocked he won that many GGs, because I never left especially impressed with his range. Wasn't near as good a table-setter as Alomar, Morgan or Hornsby, and I feel he falls short defensively of Alomar and Morgan as well.
May 15, 201511 yr I'd have to rate Alomar above Sandberg, and I loved Sandberg. I'm shocked he won that many GGs, because I never left especially impressed with his range. Wasn't near as good a table-setter as Alomar, Morgan or Hornsby, and I feel he falls short defensively of Alomar and Morgan as well. Gold Gloves might be the most worthless award in sports. If a guy wins one, he wins eight. They just give them to the same guys over and over again.
May 15, 201511 yr Gold Gloves might be the most worthless award in sports. If a guy wins one, he wins eight. They just give them to the same guys over and over again. Ozzie Smith being a notable example of this. He stole some from Barry Larking late in his career after he had started declining.
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