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Natalie Maines Is Still Not Ready to Make Nice

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I'm curious to know how much of the disdain for the Dixie Chicks after the infamous statement had to do with them being an all women's group? If an all male country act had said the same would the backlash be the same?

 

Nope. Not a chance.

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The 2006 album by Dixie Chicks won 5 Grammy's and went double platinum. They have toured successfully 2 more times since they made the 9/11 comments while on tour in 2003. They toured in 2013/2014. There was backlash by many and the most damaging was the country music stations not supporting their music. However, the comments clearly did not end their careers. They seem to be doing fine and having big success.

The 2006 album by Dixie Chicks won 5 Grammy's and went double platinum. They have toured successfully 2 more times since they made the 9/11 comments while on tour in 2003. They toured in 2013/2014. There was backlash by many and the most damaging was the country music stations not supporting their music. However, the comments clearly did not end their careers. They seem to be doing fine and having big success.

 

Sure the 2006 album may have sold over 2 million copies in the US but the previous two albums sold 9 and 7 million respectively. Those comments made a big dent in the album sales. There making a living but nothing like they were previously.

I'm curious to know how much of the disdain for the Dixie Chicks after the infamous statement had to do with them being an all women's group? If an all male country act had said the same would the backlash be the same?

 

Oh please, why does EVERYTHING become about being a racist or a misogynist? Can people not have a genuine difference of opinion? Do people that us this as a crutch in any and every argument not realize that just like the boy who cried wolf, when there is genuine racist or misogynistic behavior people no longer pay attention because it has become such a throw away claim?

 

I pretty much refuse to watch anything with Sean Penn in it because of his extreme leftist views. Does that make me a raging ex-teen stoner portraying-ist or something?

Oh please, why does EVERYTHING become about being a racist or a misogynist? Can people not have a genuine difference of opinion? Do people that us this as a crutch in any and every argument not realize that just like the boy who cried wolf, when there is genuine racist or misogynistic behavior people no longer pay attention because it has become such a throw away claim?

 

I pretty much refuse to watch anything with Sean Penn in it because of his extreme leftist views. Does that make me a raging ex-teen stoner portraying-ist or something?

I don't care to go where ever you are going with this on this fine Sunday morning.

 

It is my OPINION (mine and nobody else's) that the audience and fan base of country music do not expect to hear political statements like this from their female performers. So I was asking the question---would there have been as strong of a backlash if a male country performering group would have made the same statement.

^Yes, I think the reaction would have been the same....maybe worse, if it would've been a major male country singer.

I guess that's the difference between country music and rap. As long as a rapper makes banging music we really don't care what they say. Jay-Z could crap all over Obama in major ways but as long as his next album is tight I'm buying it. :lol2:

Not really true see Ja-Rule.

I don't care to go where ever you are going with this on this fine Sunday morning.

 

It is my OPINION (mine and nobody else's) that the audience and fan base of country music do not expect to hear political statements like this from their female performers. So I was asking the question---would there have been as strong of a backlash if a male country performing group would have made the same statement.

 

You're the one that took it there. Everything has become about racism, sexism and any other -ism you care to name if the person you are critical of has left leaning views. People bash Obama because he's black, people bash Hillary because she's a woman but it's funny how Clarence Thomas or Sarah Palin don't get the same umbrella.

I think the knee-jerk reaction was embarrassing.

You're the one that took it there. Everything has become about racism, sexism and any other -ism you care to name if the person you are critical of has left leaning views. People bash Obama because he's black, people bash Hillary because she's a woman but it's funny how Clarence Thomas or Sarah Palin don't get the same umbrella.

I did not take it anywhere. I'm not connecting it to any of your rhetoric. I'm just looking at country record sales and country radio stations and wondering if there would be a difference with male performers.

 

As I think about it, I think that @doubledeuce is right. It probably would have been worse for a very high profile male country singer----as other male country singers would have probably really joined in the bashing. But what do I know? :idunno:

Not really true see Ja-Rule.

 

Ja-Rule sucked though. He never had a good album after his first one and what did he do to make people hate him other than suck?

You're the one that took it there. Everything has become about racism, sexism and any other -ism you care to name if the person you are critical of has left leaning views. People bash Obama because he's black, people bash Hillary because she's a woman but it's funny how Clarence Thomas or Sarah Palin don't get the same umbrella.

 

Sarah Palin has been ridiculed for EVERYTHING she has said and will be ridiculed for the rest of her life. I'm amazed you even brought her into this one. IMO one of the main reasons she is ridiculed is because she is a woman. Be seen and not heard still rules these days.

Sarah Palin has been ridiculed for EVERYTHING she has said and will be ridiculed for the rest of her life. I'm amazed you even brought her into this one. IMO one of the main reasons she is ridiculed is because she is a woman. Be seen and not heard still rules these days.

 

I think the main reason this blew up was that she was in the UK (United Kingdom, not Lexington) when she did this in front of an non-US crowd. Had she done this in the US it probably blows over.

I personally am glad she isn't back pedaling. She's entitled to her opinion just as any of us. I also don't get trying to penalize an artist because of their opinion. If I don't like the product, I don't buy it. I don't decide whether I buy based upon whether the artist agrees with me.

 

Further, I don't understand the opinion that entertainers should keep their views to themselves. Heck, they're just as entitled to voice their opinion as you or I. No one tells me I need to shut up and just do my job.

 

I do think Hoops has some great, deeper thinking questions That are fair to ask. I have found people's opinions are formed on several levels. There is no simple opinion.

I think the main reason this blew up was that she was in the UK (United Kingdom, not Lexington) when she did this in front of an non-US crowd. Had she done this in the US it probably blows over.

 

While I think that is possible, I tend to disagree. Maines went totally against the grain of the genre at that time. When the rest of country artists were writing songs about kicking tail, she and the Chicks didn't just not "go there" they went a completely different direction with their views.

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