What's comical is that some believe otherwise. Check the numbers, on average, and you will see. I guess if getting a d1 offer is all one is looking for then great, being successful is another point. Schulte probably attracted attention because of his size, but has yet to play a second on the floor. Giesler another big body, but probably wouldn't have seen the floor if NKU was healthy. McDonald another big body and good floor IQ, will have trouble with people his own size. You could probably guard him with someone a lot smaller on the outside because his jump shot is more of a set shot. Not trying to be critical but it sounds that way when being honest. And to your point about Vonhandorf and Weyer, if you don't know then its probably inaccurate.

 

Vonhandorf has offers from NKU and Winthrop.

 

Check McDonald's stats on the EYBL circuit...against kids his own size and bigger with elite level athleticism...then get back to me.

 

Nothing you said above proves the 9th region is "weak."

 

State Champs and All A State Champs plus multiple D1 signees speaks for itself.

To this point I agree. The last couple years (1-2) has shown improved recruiting, but overall its not a place recruiters come to see a steady flow of talent. The "hype machine" will soon run out of gas.

 

If you are talking D1 only, you are probably right.....but if we are basing this discussion on D1 only, then there are A LOT of weak region around the state.

 

Last time I checked, it's about kids simply getting to the next level and getting a degree. As long as they are doing that, who cares what level it is or where the coaches are coming from.

If you are talking D1 only, you are probably right.....but if we are basing this discussion on D1 only, then there are A LOT of weak region around the state.

 

Last time I checked, it's about kids simply getting to the next level and getting a degree. As long as they are doing that, who cares what level it is or where the coaches are coming from.

 

Your degree won't say D1, D2, or D3. And, it certainly won't say "awarded the degree of Bachelors of Basketball Player"

If you wanna play ball and go to school... Then, go to a school where you'll play ball. In the end "bragging rights" on this subject will be meaningless.

To this point I agree. The last couple years (1-2) has shown improved recruiting, but overall its not a place recruiters come to see a steady flow of talent. The "hype machine" will soon run out of gas.

 

Which region has this constantly, year in and year out?

 

Let's be honest.... Most of the recruiting comes in April, June, and July during the live periods and when these kids are going to team and elite camps. Albeit, you do see some at the bigger tournaments during HS season, but typically it's not near the hundreds you see over the spring/summer.

To this point I agree. The last couple years (1-2) has shown improved recruiting, but overall its not a place recruiters come to see a steady flow of talent. The "hype machine" will soon run out of gas.

 

Compared to what region?

 

The entire state of KY struggles to produce much D1 talent. I don't get your fascination with the 9th.

 

There's a lot of talk about the 9th on here for one reason: There's a lot of 9th fans.

Compared to what region?

 

The entire state of KY struggles to produce much D1 talent. I don't get your fascination with the 9th.

 

There's a lot of talk about the 9th on here for one reason: There's a lot of 9th fans.

 

And, supportive! We do love our basketball.

I don't have a fascination with the 9th region. It s the supporters on here that do, I was pointing out what the 9th produces. There's no fascination with d1 from me either, it's the hype from the supporters who make it a d1 discussion. I'm a huge fan of getting the kid to the next level and getting the degree, but some are simply over the top in evaluation. My point is this, there is nothing special about some of the players who have been talked about in this thread. They are/will be very good high school players, that's it!

NKY basketball, 9th region, is weak. Don't believe me, ask the local recruiters and see if they can give you a straight answer without beating around the bush. You could say I've got an "inside" on this matter. The local players who have been mentioned in this thread are good for this area and will have successful high school careers. By far, Ruthsatz was by best point in the area and he ended up D2. There's nothing wrong with that, its a great accomplishment, but the hype given to some of the kids is over the top. You would think any top 10 from any state would receive a D1 scholarship, but on average only 7 kids from Ky will receive a D1 scholarship. I don't know if Ky's top 10 are as good as advertised?

I'm confused. You say the 9th is weak. Only 7 kids from all of KY will get a D1 scholarship. 2 from The 9th got one last year, a 9th team won the All A and the state tourney. Also at least 2 kids from 2015 have already been offered D1 for next year. Looking at those numbers it appears the 9th may be a little better than you are giving them credit for.

Listen I started this thread to talk about the top players in the state. Not for everybody to talk about NKY basketball and who's D1 or D2. Go to another thread if that's what you want to talk about. Please talk about who you think the top players in class of 2015 are and leave all the NKY biased for another thread.

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It's funny how people place the standard at D1... Most of the time the difference between d1 and d2 is size and strength, not necessarily the ability to play. I coached a kid a few years ago that was 6'7, and was dominant. Was basically told he was too small to play his position at a d1 school. If he was 6'8 or 6'9, he is d1.

 

People here act like d2 is something to laugh at. Any kid in this state that can play d2 ball, much less d1, is very gifted, and has worked very hard!

 

Also, let's look at the kids who have gone on to play d1 in this state, and the amount of actual, significant minutes they get vs. d2 kids and the minutes they get. For example... Remy Abell, a phenomenal, gifted athlete at Eastern, goes on to Indiana, plays 12.5 minutes in 2 seasons, and averages 4pts/1/1. And, is now transferring to Xavier.... Vs. Jake Thelen a scorer, rebounder who decided to go d2 to bellarmine and started all 32 games as a Sophomore, and all 31 games as a Junior. He played 29 minutes per game. Not to mention he led the nation in FG% and was first on his team in rebounding, and contributed 15 pts/game.

 

Not saying Remy hasn't done a good job, but I'm sure he'd rather be playing 28 minutes a game, scoring 15, and being able to contribute more. The kid is a phenomenal player!

 

 

It's not really fair to belittle a kid like Abell's accomplishments by saying he's transferring from Indiana to Xavier. If he got 12.5 minutes per game at Indiana, he's probably going to play quite a bit at Xavier. Both of those are high level D1 programs that will get attention from NBA and other professional scouts. I'm pretty sure Thelen would love to play, or even sit at the end of the bench, at either of those schools instead of Bellarmine. Look at a kid like Krebs. Which of his schools do you think meant more to him?

Back to the topic at hand, I'm going to give my top 10:

 

Tier 1:

1. Spalding

2. Bolden

3. Justice

 

Tier 2:

4. Sutton

 

Tier 3:

5. McDonald

6. Matlock

7. Tisdale

8. Holman

9. ???

10. ???

 

Last two names, I'd need to see more of Jalen Perry, Matt Rose, Jeremiah Bell, Grey, Evan Hall, Terrell Gray, and Hagen Tyler (I've seen some of them, but not all) to really make an informed decision.

It's not really fair to belittle a kid like Abell's accomplishments by saying he's transferring from Indiana to Xavier. If he got 12.5 minutes per game at Indiana, he's probably going to play quite a bit at Xavier. Both of those are high level D1 programs that will get attention from NBA and other professional scouts. I'm pretty sure Thelen would love to play, or even sit at the end of the bench, at either of those schools instead of Bellarmine. Look at a kid like Krebs. Which of his schools do you think meant more to him?

 

Your statement that Thelen would rather have sat at the end of the bench for 4 years at a Xavier level program than have a meaningful basketball career at Bellarmine - I highly doubt it. As I said in an earlier post, unless you're from Kentucky and dream of wearing that UK uniform (or a similar situation), why would anyone want to ride the bench at any level? And no one know/cares/remembers that the kid played D1 5 years after they're career is over.

 

To use a KY high school analogy - would you rather be a bench warmer at Scott County for 4 years or have a meaningful career as a contributor at a Harrison County type school? Not too many would choose the former. Kids "play" basketball to actually play. It is almost always more desirable to have a good career at a D2 than be irrelevant at a D1 school.

Back to the topic at hand, I'm going to give my top 10:

 

Tier 1:

1. Spalding

2. Bolden

3. Justice

 

Tier 2:

4. Sutton

 

Tier 3:

5. McDonald

6. Matlock

7. Tisdale

8. Holman

9. ???

10. ???

 

Last two names, I'd need to see more of Jalen Perry, Matt Rose, Jeremiah Bell, Grey, Evan Hall, Terrell Gray, and Hagen Tyler (I've seen some of them, but not all) to really make an informed decision.

 

Perry and Tyler