Clyde, here is a question regarding double dribble, or the appearance of a double dribble.

 

-A1 passes to A2

 

-Pass hits A2 in the hand and bounces to the floor

 

-A2 grabs ball, then begins dribbling.

 

I'm certain I've not outlined that as well as I could, but hopefully you understand. Has A2 committed a double dribble? What constitutes the start of "dribbling"?

 

no to double dribble

 

JOAT is correct. You cannot double dribble until you have control of the ball and have dribbled. The ball bouncing of of your hand does not constitute control. Always a judgement all as to control though. I can catch the ball with one hand and immediately push it to the floor. That's a dribble.

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Can you please break down the over and back rule? I think you touched on "over the back" but not "over and back". I hear people mess that one up all of the time.

 

Also.....If player A is inbounding the ball from the side and player B is in the frontcourt and the pass goes into the backcourt if player B jumps from the frontcourt into the backcourt to catch the inbounds pass nad catches it before he lands in the backcourt is that an over and back violation?

In order for over and back to be called, everything (both feet and ball) must be in the front court. If a player has the ball and one foot in the frontcourt and then pulls the ball, foot or both in the backcourt it is not a violation. It is all 3 or nothing.

The over and back scream from the stands is the one that goes through me and sometimes I can't bite my tongue hard enough and have to explain the rule to them. Then I always get the same response, "Well that's a stupid rule"

 

To which you should respond, well you're clearly a stupid spectator...... I hear that's a good way to strike up a conversation and make friends.

Can you please break down the over and back rule? I think you touched on "over the back" but not "over and back". I hear people mess that one up all of the time.

 

Also.....If player A is inbounding the ball from the side and player B is in the frontcourt and the pass goes into the backcourt if player B jumps from the frontcourt into the backcourt to catch the inbounds pass nad catches it before he lands in the backcourt is that an over and back violation?

 

In order for over and back to be called, everything (both feet and ball) must be in the front court. If a player has the ball and one foot in the frontcourt and then pulls the ball, foot or both in the backcourt it is not a violation. It is all 3 or nothing.

 

JOAT is on the right path but not totally there.

 

Requirements for a backcourt violation:

 

1. Team has control in the front court. Ball has frontcourt status.

2. Offense is last to touch the ball in the front court.

3. Offense is first to touch the ball in the backcourt.

 

If a player is dribbling the ball he is NOT in the frontcourt until both feet and the ball are touching the front court. Where JOAT's general statement was wrong is that that ONLY applies to a dribbler.

 

If a player catches the ball with one foot in the frontcourt and one in the backcourt, lifts the foot that is in the backcourt, and then touches the backcourt again it is a violation. That foot didn't have to touch the frontcourt.

 

The most common error amongst fans is when they yell "he tipped the ball" after the call meaning the defender hit the ball. Again, as I pointed out in #2 if the offensive player is the last to touch in the frontcourt (even if tipped by a defender) he cannot be the first to touch in the backcourt.

Note: If the ball is inbounds a player cannot jump from the frontcourt, catch the ball , and then land in the backcourt. That's a violation.

 

NOTE: That doesn't apply on a jumpball or on a throw-in.

Question (maybe a little off topic):

 

Do officials concern themselves with who scratches them?

I think the 5 second call is one that confuses fans and refs. And another thing I wish fans and refs had a better understanding of is that a loose ball does not mean you can spear a player on the floor. I've seen kids dive into a one or more players on the floor and if it was the NFL they would draw a 15 yard penalty.

Question (maybe a little off topic):

 

Do officials concern themselves with who scratches them?

 

 

Most do not.

I think the 5 second call is one that confuses fans and refs. And another thing I wish fans and refs had a better understanding of is that a loose ball does not mean you can spear a player on the floor. I've seen kids dive into a one or more players on the floor and if it was the NFL they would draw a 15 yard penalty.

 

Dead on , Frank, regarding the loose ball. For some reason coaches and fans do not like when a foul is called on a loose ball.

I think the 5 second call is one that confuses fans and refs. And another thing I wish fans and refs had a better understanding of is that a loose ball does not mean you can spear a player on the floor. I've seen kids dive into a one or more players on the floor and if it was the NFL they would draw a 15 yard penalty.

 

Regarding the 5-second call, folks have to remember that there is a 5-second call for while there is a dribble and then a separate 5-second call when they are not dribbling.

 

So a player could be holding the ball for 4 seconds, not move , start dribbling for 4 seconds, pick it up, then hold it for 4 seconds again with no moving and not have a 5-second call called.

Clyde you're better than that. Over and back, not over the back. Thanks JOAT.

Clyde you're better than that. Over and back, not over the back. Thanks JOAT.

 

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