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Most Common Fans Mistakes Regarding Rules

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I've done this on here before. Probably not a bad time to do it again.

 

Here's what I see as the most common misunderstandings about rules from fans and coaches.

 

Travel:

 

First, in order to travel you have to have control of the ball. What that means is that if A1 is cutting to the basket and bobbles a pass from A2 while continuing to move his feet it is NOT a travel. Why? He has not established control of the ball. This is probably the most yelled about travel call from both fans and coaches.

 

It is NOT a travel if you dive on a ball that's on the floor and you slide 30 feet.

 

It is not automatically a travel if you fall to the floor when you have the ball. If you release the ball a split second before you hit the floor it's not a travel. It's only a travel if you have control of the ball and you maintain control to the floor.

 

It's not a travel (or double dribble as you might sometimes hear) if you shoot an airball and then go get the rebound. If the official thinks it's a legit shot attempt you can get the ball.

 

There is NO travel on the player throwing in the ball from out of bounds. Travel only occurs for a player who is inbounds. There CAN be a violation on a spot throw in(a throw in after a violation or a ball that went out of bounds). Remember: Billy Packer was wrong when he said Patrick Sparks moved his pivot foot on a throw-in against UL. No such rule.

 

Player Control:

 

For high school there is no circle under the basket that precludes a "charge" or player control foul. PC can happy anywhere on the floor even right under the rim.

 

Defender can be moving and still get a PC on the offensive player. He just can't be moving forward.

 

No matter when the shot happened vs when the contact happened a made basket NEVER counts if a PC foul is called.

 

Even if a team is in the bonus you never shoot FTs when a PC foul occurs.

 

Technical:

 

It is NOT automatically a T if a defender slaps the backboard. If the official thinks the player was trying to block the shot it's nothing.

 

Goaltending/Basket Interference:

 

It is NOT BI if a defender slaps the backboard while making a legit attempt to block the shot EVEN IF the slap causes the ball to not go in.

 

It is NOT BI if a player touches the net while the ball is in the air. It is only BI if the net is touched while the ball is ON the rim or in the basket.

 

THREE SECONDS:

 

BY RULE the 3 second count stops when the offensive player who is in the lane catches the ball. If he immediately makes a move to shoot the ball it's nothing. If he subsequently passes the ball or does not make an attempt to shoot the ball THEN it's a violation.

 

The 3 second count stops and goes back to zero when the ball is shot.

 

 

Off the top of my head those are the ones I hear fans incorrectly yell about the most.

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I'm always hearing fans holler "over the back" and "three seconds". Many times they're wrong.

 

I was given clarification on the semicircle (or lack thereof) under the basket the night I was talking with officials Queen and Walter.

The over and back scream from the stands is the one that goes through me and sometimes I can't bite my tongue hard enough and have to explain the rule to them. Then I always get the same response, "Well that's a stupid rule"

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The over and back scream from the stands is the one that goes through me and sometimes I can't bite my tongue hard enough and have to explain the rule to them. Then I always get the same response, "Well that's a stupid rule"

 

Should have mentioned that one.

 

There is NO rule that says a person behind another cannot get a rebound legally.

 

The only issue is did the person from behind push the other player while going for the ball. It's that simple.

On player control, when does the defender have to stop moving? The one that always bugs me is defender sets feet; offensive player jumps left or right to avoid contact; defender leans upper body into the path of the offensive player to create contact. Should that be called a charge?

Made the mistake my first sweet 16 of buying a set of seats next to a guy 400 lbs. Took his'n and mine too. Huge mistake

I cringe whenever I hear someone yell for the "over the back" call. Once I hear that, I know they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about for the rest of the game.

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On player control, when does the defender have to stop moving? The one that always bugs me is defender sets feet; offensive player jumps left or right to avoid contact; defender leans upper body into the path of the offensive player to create contact. Should that be called a charge?

 

Defender has to have LGP established before the shooter leaves his feet. Once the shooter is airbore the defender cannot move sideways or forwards. Can move back still.

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I cringe whenever I hear someone yell for the "over the back" call. Once I hear that, I know they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about for the rest of the game.

 

It doesn't necessarily mean they don't know the rule. Maybe they legitimately thought there was a push. Sometimes they just yell the commonly accepted term.

Goaltending/Basket Interference:

 

It is NOT BI if a defender slaps the backboard while making a legit attempt to block the shot EVEN IF the slap causes the ball to not go in.

 

 

This is the one rule that has always annoyed me the most. It makes no sense to me why it wouldn't be basket interference.

I've done this on here before. Probably not a bad time to do it again.

 

Here's what I see as the most common misunderstandings about rules from fans and coaches.

 

Travel:

 

First, in order to travel you have to have control of the ball. What that means is that if A1 is cutting to the basket and bobbles a pass from A2 while continuing to move his feet it is NOT a travel. Why? He has not established control of the ball. This is probably the most yelled about travel call from both fans and coaches.

 

It is NOT a travel if you dive on a ball that's on the floor and you slide 30 feet.

 

It is not automatically a travel if you fall to the floor when you have the ball. If you release the ball a split second before you hit the floor it's not a travel. It's only a travel if you have control of the ball and you maintain control to the floor.

I understand what the rule says but it has never made sense to me. If a player dives, has the ball and is sliding, why is that deemed not having possession? Do you have to be on your feet to have possession? In fairness to fans and coaches, I see refs screw up this call.
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I understand what the rule says but it has never made sense to me. If a player dives, has the ball and is sliding, why is that deemed not having possession? Do you have to be on your feet to have possession? In fairness to fans and coaches, I see refs screw up this call.

 

Nothing has been done that violates any of the tenets of a travel.

 

 

 

Now once the player stops he cannot roll over. THAT would be a travel.

Defender has to have LGP established before the shooter leaves his feet. Once the shooter is airbore the defender cannot move sideways or forwards. Can move back still.

 

That's what I thought. This is the charging call that grates me to no end. I haven't watched a ton of college basketball this season, but you can usually see at least one of these in every game where the defender leans left/right to create contact and still gets the charge call.

Clyde, here is a question regarding double dribble, or the appearance of a double dribble.

 

-A1 passes to A2

 

-Pass hits A2 in the hand and bounces to the floor

 

-A2 grabs ball, then begins dribbling.

 

I'm certain I've not outlined that as well as I could, but hopefully you understand. Has A2 committed a double dribble? What constitutes the start of "dribbling"?

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