Another key point of todays hearings: Two "stand-down" orders were given while the Benghazi attacks were in progress. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why?

 

Obama can't sustain his demonic lifeblood without the wanton slaughter of innocent Americans.

Obama can't sustain his demonic lifeblood without the wanton slaughter of innocent Americans.

 

That's gotta be it.

Obama can't sustain his demonic lifeblood without the wanton slaughter of innocent Americans.

 

I'm not going to lie I'm a little disappointed in you, you are usually one of the more reasonable people from the left on this board. I'm shocked that so many people have blinders on and don't want to learn more about this issue. There is no disputing Hillary Clinton and many associated with the state department and white house have lied. The hearing is about figuring out who all were included in these lies. No one can say any longer its just a "tea party conspiracy". After today's testimony by people on the ground we now know we were lied to and our media failed us. You can roll your eyes , shrug your shoulders, but you can't have a serious discussion and dispute these points now.

 

If you want to say no big deal the lies and motives of these officals are of no use to you that is one thing, but then I fail to see what you would ever wanted to investigate at that point.

Not sure you really want to keep score here...

 

Let me guess because more people died on 9-11 in NYC.

 

Anything that helps you justify the ineptness and outright dishonesty of Obama. You've already played the "the other side does it too" card.

 

The bottom line to me is that there have now been 3 terrorist attacks with ties to radical Muslims under this President's watch and he has done everything he can to throw the focus away from that.

 

Workplace violence, protesting a video, lone wolves.

Clinton lied to congress which is against the law.. So yes, laws were broken...

 

Did she lie or did she just "not remember"?

I'm not going to lie I'm a little disappointed in you, you are usually one of the more reasonable people from the left on this board. I'm shocked that so many people have blinders on and don't want to learn more about this issue. There is no disputing Hillary Clinton and many associated with the state department and white house have lied. The hearing is about figuring out who all were included in these lies. No one can say any longer its just a "tea party conspiracy". After today's testimony by people on the ground we now know we were lied to and our media failed us. You can roll your eyes , shrug your shoulders, but you can't have a serious discussion and dispute these points now.

 

If you want to say no big deal the lies and motives of these officals are of no use to you that is one thing, but then I fail to see what you would ever wanted to investigate at that point.

To call Habib "from the left" is more than a little off base. You should read back through his posts. He's more rational and middle of the road than most on here. Not that you have to agree with what he says, but there is usually sound reasoning behind his posts. At least IMO.

To call Habib "from the left" is more than a little off base. You should read back through his posts. He's more rational and middle of the road than most on here. Not that you have to agree with what he says, but there is usually sound reasoning behind his posts. At least IMO.

 

I did say he was reasonable ? But there is no mistaking a majority of his positions fall on the left. Habib is very interesting read on here and has sound reasoning. I just thought that particular post brought nothing to the convo.

I did say he was reasonable ? But there is no mistaking a majority of his positions fall on the left. Habib is very interesting read on here and has sound reasoning. I just thought that particular post brought nothing to the convo.

In my opinion that's the problem with much of the political discussion going on now. You're either with us or against us. Anyone not to the right of Sean hannity is considered left wing. Only an extremely right or left leaning person would call Habib left or right leaning based on his posts. It hinders discussion greatly in my opinion. Discussion if ideas is one of the great aspects of this site and forum. Not discussion of people. Imo

In my opinion that's the problem with much of the political discussion going on now. You're either with us or against us. Anyone not to the right of Sean hannity is considered left wing. Only an extremely right or left leaning person would call Habib left or right leaning based on his posts. It hinders discussion greatly in my opinion. Discussion if ideas is one of the great aspects of this site and forum. Not discussion of people. Imo

I didn't know saying someone was on the left was demeaning . Myself I'm basically a libertarian I only stray on one issue.

 

But all have to define someones political beliefs on , is what they post. Its not an attack. The whole point of my post was the comment brought nothing to the discussion on what I deem a serious issue. I just don't understand why some people don't want to hear the truth. A lot of information came out today and unless you ignored the hearing you have to admit we were lied to.

What an exercise in futility.

 

I'll tell you how this ends.

 

It doesn't matter what the trial uncovers. One side will say it's the truth and the other will say it's all lies. Nobody goes to jail. Boom. Story is over.

What an exercise in futility.

 

I'll tell you how this ends.

 

It doesn't matter what the trial uncovers. One side will say it's the truth and the other will say it's all lies. Nobody goes to jail. Boom. Story is over.

 

Sad but true. As long as Hillary goes down I will be satisfied.

If you all think this stops at Hillary, you are nuts! 3 weeks after the fact the administration, and I will say it, the President, was still saying some lame lies about this. (Oh and let's not forget Candy Crowley of CNN backing up his words at a debate). The administration was trying to figure out their story (see Susan Rice) and lied, lied, lied. The media (completely in bed with the messiah) failed to do their job too.

 

When the truth comes out, Obama will have been betrayed by his own lack of action, and as usual, the cover up will make the situation worse.

 

Civil protest over there my butt.

 

And United States media, get back to work. Quit reading the talking points from both sides.

What an exercise in futility.

 

I'll tell you how this ends.

 

It doesn't matter what the trial uncovers. One side will say it's the truth and the other will say it's all lies. Nobody goes to jail. Boom. Story is over.

 

I hope you're wrong because this is too important to gloss over. If failures happened we need to find out where they were and how to prevent them in the future. I do agree that no one goes to jail, unless perjury or obstruction occurs.

I hope you're wrong because this is too important to gloss over. If failures happened we need to find out where they were and how to prevent them in the future. I do agree that no one goes to jail, unless perjury or obstruction occurs.

I am with you on this one. This is not some kind of petty budgetary issue or tax debate that should be dismissed as some kind of political nonsense going on.

I am with you on this one. This is not some kind of petty budgetary issue or tax debate that should be dismissed as some kind of political nonsense going on.

Actually, there is an important budgetary component to this story. I'm talking about GOP funding cuts for embassy security.

 

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'