Have they grown? Looks like they were both listed at 6'1 for the 2012-2013 season. Guess that's decent size for a guard, but I would not call that "really good size". Looks like the older boy averaged 17 or so a game, but how many of those pts came playing against JV players, when WV was already down 30-40 pts in the 2nd half.

 

Why don't you watch them play first before making comments like you have?

KL, I just Love those who speak but never state the facts, of what they speak of! I too have never heard of it happening at the schools I am familiar with!

 

Name the schools you state as FACT!!!

 

 

 

I would love to know what schools you are talking about??? I also echo the sentiments of kinglouis and TOG.

 

Wasnt a Lex area school sanctioned for grants to athletes?

 

Lexington Christian was penalized in 2008 for giving out to much aid to athletes.

They would step on to most teams and both start.

 

You are absolutely right. That said, NCC is not "most teams" at the present time.

When I was coaching, I assumed all of us did the same things for our kids : contact colleges on their behalf, design schedules to give them the best possible exposure, respond quickly to requests for films, academic data or other info, work in the off season to overcome each kid's weaknesses and add to his repertoire (add shots, range, moves, speed, quickness, strength, etc.), and so on. Once I had several players receive college scholarships, I found players transferring in. I was accused of recruiting but never did. They, or their parents, recruited themselves. I eventually learned that all coaches do not do these things. They do not develop their kids, promote them, monitor and guide their academics, etc. So it began to make sense that kids whose coaches were not doing these things would want to transfer to a school where the coach did do these things. If my child were talented in math, science, art, music, debate, writing or anything else, I would want them to go to a school with a strong program in their area to develop their skills and help them possibly earn a college scholarship. If your son develops an interest in Robotics, Highlands has a Robotics Team and your school does not, wouldn't you want to send your son to Highlands so they could participate? If Latin had the best Debate team in Northern Kentucky and your son was interested in Debate, wouldn't you want to send them to Latin to have that experience and perhaps earn a college scholarship? There's nothing wrong with this and the state should have nothing to say about it. If Bellevue or Silver Grove doesn't like it that a student transfers to gain access to a better program, let them start or upgrade their own program. This is competition. This should drive all schools to hire the best people and run the best programs possible in every area, from Math to Art. And the same principle applies to sports. Let them go where they feel most appreciated, where their learning and playing style best meshes with the coach's teaching and administrative style, where they can develop whatever potential they have to their maximum. You only get four years in high school. For the next 70 years you have to look back on it. You ought to be able to look back without regrets. Too many Kentucky schools want to return to the days of a captive audience, where kids were trapped and the schools could hire good ole boys, school board members' relatives, or hometown heroes, and then the kids had to live with it good or bad. We're moving beyond that and I'm glad. Let the kids go where they want. Let them move in with a friend, let Mom rent an apartment, whatever it takes, if they live too far to drive back and forth every day. I know too many parents are delusional and too many players are difficult to coach, but that's another issue. Truth is, I've seen students who absolutely could not get along with one Math or English teacher and transferred down the hall and made As under another teacher. And I've seen the same with some players and coaches. You see it in college, too. Remember Wayne Chapman and Harry Lancaster, Bob Talent and Coach Rupp, Jay Shidler and Joe Hall, Roderick Rhodes and Rick Pitino. It happens. Let them transfer.

Pretty solid ball players. I am not sure the word "lottery" applies. They are not going to come in an take the spot of McDonald, Pangallo, Schulte, Weyer, etc... If anyone should be concerned or upset from a playing time standpoint it would be the next tier of players in my opinion. Kids like Gray, Freppon, Smith, Anderson, etc... These are the ones that I see would be competing for minutes this coming season that would be the most directly affected.

 

Tanner will start and the younger one will likely get a ton of minutes. Tanner is a scorer and could replace Beuter or Siebert's scoring very easily.

When I was coaching, I assumed all of us did the same things for our kids : contact colleges on their behalf, design schedules to give them the best possible exposure, respond quickly to requests for films, academic data or other info, work in the off season to overcome each kid's weaknesses and add to his repertoire (add shots, range, moves, speed, quickness, strength, etc.), and so on. Once I had several players receive college scholarships, I found players transferring in. I was accused of recruiting but never did. They, or their parents, recruited themselves. I eventually learned that all coaches do not do these things. They do not develop their kids, promote them, monitor and guide their academics, etc. So it began to make sense that kids whose coaches were not doing these things would want to transfer to a school where the coach did do these things. If my child were talented in math, science, art, music, debate, writing or anything else, I would want them to go to a school with a strong program in their area to develop their skills and help them possibly earn a college scholarship. If your son develops an interest in Robotics, Highlands has a Robotics Team and your school does not, wouldn't you want to send your son to Highlands so they could participate? If Latin had the best Debate team in Northern Kentucky and your son was interested in Debate, wouldn't you want to send them to Latin to have that experience and perhaps earn a college scholarship? There's nothing wrong with this and the state should have nothing to say about it. If Bellevue or Silver Grove doesn't like it that a student transfers to gain access to a better program, let them start or upgrade their own program. This is competition. This should drive all schools to hire the best people and run the best programs possible in every area, from Math to Art. And the same principle applies to sports. Let them go where they feel most appreciated, where their learning and playing style best meshes with the coach's teaching and administrative style, where they can develop whatever potential they have to their maximum. You only get four years in high school. For the next 70 years you have to look back on it. You ought to be able to look back without regrets. Too many Kentucky schools want to return to the days of a captive audience, where kids were trapped and the schools could hire good ole boys, school board members' relatives, or hometown heroes, and then the kids had to live with it good or bad. We're moving beyond that and I'm glad. Let the kids go where they want. Let them move in with a friend, let Mom rent an apartment, whatever it takes, if they live too far to drive back and forth every day. I know too many parents are delusional and too many players are difficult to coach, but that's another issue. Truth is, I've seen students who absolutely could not get along with one Math or English teacher and transferred down the hall and made As under another teacher. And I've seen the same with some players and coaches. You see it in college, too. Remember Wayne Chapman and Harry Lancaster, Bob Talent and Coach Rupp, Jay Shidler and Joe Hall, Roderick Rhodes and Rick Pitino. It happens. Let them transfer.

 

 

Good stuff but paragraphs man, paragraphs.

Jacob Smith should scare them boys!! He is a athlete an a real good basketball player!

If NCC does indeed win the lottery for these two brothers, then they will have reloaded in a very good way! These boys are very good talent wise and have very fundamental skill sets. They would make NCC the hands down favorites in my book... with Holmes second... next season.

 

Has anyone heard if NCC will get moved out of the 9th region next season? I remember seeing speculation on that awhile back... but never heard anything conclusive one way or the other?

 

 

They have 1 more year in the 9th.

Good stuff but paragraphs man, paragraphs.

 

I just want the Cliff Notes!:lol::lol: Just kidding...it was a good post.

When I was coaching, I assumed all of us did the same things for our kids : contact colleges on their behalf, design schedules to give them the best possible exposure, respond quickly to requests for films, academic data or other info, work in the off season to overcome each kid's weaknesses and add to his repertoire (add shots, range, moves, speed, quickness, strength, etc.), and so on. Once I had several players receive college scholarships, I found players transferring in. I was accused of recruiting but never did. They, or their parents, recruited themselves. I eventually learned that all coaches do not do these things. They do not develop their kids, promote them, monitor and guide their academics, etc. So it began to make sense that kids whose coaches were not doing these things would want to transfer to a school where the coach did do these things. If my child were talented in math, science, art, music, debate, writing or anything else, I would want them to go to a school with a strong program in their area to develop their skills and help them possibly earn a college scholarship. If your son develops an interest in Robotics, Highlands has a Robotics Team and your school does not, wouldn't you want to send your son to Highlands so they could participate? If Latin had the best Debate team in Northern Kentucky and your son was interested in Debate, wouldn't you want to send them to Latin to have that experience and perhaps earn a college scholarship? There's nothing wrong with this and the state should have nothing to say about it. If Bellevue or Silver Grove doesn't like it that a student transfers to gain access to a better program, let them start or upgrade their own program. This is competition. This should drive all schools to hire the best people and run the best programs possible in every area, from Math to Art. And the same principle applies to sports. Let them go where they feel most appreciated, where their learning and playing style best meshes with the coach's teaching and administrative style, where they can develop whatever potential they have to their maximum. You only get four years in high school. For the next 70 years you have to look back on it. You ought to be able to look back without regrets. Too many Kentucky schools want to return to the days of a captive audience, where kids were trapped and the schools could hire good ole boys, school board members' relatives, or hometown heroes, and then the kids had to live with it good or bad. We're moving beyond that and I'm glad. Let the kids go where they want. Let them move in with a friend, let Mom rent an apartment, whatever it takes, if they live too far to drive back and forth every day. I know too many parents are delusional and too many players are difficult to coach, but that's another issue. Truth is, I've seen students who absolutely could not get along with one Math or English teacher and transferred down the hall and made As under another teacher. And I've seen the same with some players and coaches. You see it in college, too. Remember Wayne Chapman and Harry Lancaster, Bob Talent and Coach Rupp, Jay Shidler and Joe Hall, Roderick Rhodes and Rick Pitino. It happens. Let them transfer.

 

I don't care if you put it all in one paragraph or one sentence. You spelled out a reality that many do not want to hear.

 

Simple truth is that all coaches are not alike and neither are all kids. Not everyone responds to a particular style of coaching. Quite frankly, I have seen and heard coaches do things, and say things while coaching high school kids that are simply unacceptable. I know a coach that told a kid that he was welcome to try out, but that he would never make the team because he had been injured most of the previous season and recovered to slowly in the coach's eyes. I have seen kids cursed, ridiculed, embarrassed, and badgered. All done to motivate them to play better i guess.

 

No way on this earth do I let my child play for such a person. I would instantly transfer him to a place where he could be coached, improved, motivated, pushed, and promoted. Those coaches exist and their programs prosper.

I don't care if you put it all in one paragraph or one sentence. You spelled out a reality that many do not want to hear.

 

Simple truth is that all coaches are not alike and neither are all kids. Not everyone responds to a particular style of coaching. Quite frankly, I have seen and heard coaches do things, and say things while coaching high school kids that are simply unacceptable. I know a coach that told a kid that he was welcome to try out, but that he would never make the team because he had been injured most of the previous season and recovered to slowly in the coach's eyes. I have seen kids cursed, ridiculed, embarrassed, and badgered. All done to motivate them to play better i guess.

 

No way on this earth do I let my child play for such a person. I would instantly transfer him to a place where he could be coached, improved, motivated, pushed, and promoted. Those coaches exist and their programs prosper.

 

Welcome to Newport Catholic.

When I was coaching, I assumed all of us did the same things for our kids : contact colleges on their behalf, design schedules to give them the best possible exposure, respond quickly to requests for films, academic data or other info, work in the off season to overcome each kid's weaknesses and add to his repertoire (add shots, range, moves, speed, quickness, strength, etc.), and so on. Once I had several players receive college scholarships, I found players transferring in. I was accused of recruiting but never did. They, or their parents, recruited themselves. I eventually learned that all coaches do not do these things. They do not develop their kids, promote them, monitor and guide their academics, etc. So it began to make sense that kids whose coaches were not doing these things would want to transfer to a school where the coach did do these things. If my child were talented in math, science, art, music, debate, writing or anything else, I would want them to go to a school with a strong program in their area to develop their skills and help them possibly earn a college scholarship. If your son develops an interest in Robotics, Highlands has a Robotics Team and your school does not, wouldn't you want to send your son to Highlands so they could participate? If Latin had the best Debate team in Northern Kentucky and your son was interested in Debate, wouldn't you want to send them to Latin to have that experience and perhaps earn a college scholarship? There's nothing wrong with this and the state should have nothing to say about it. If Bellevue or Silver Grove doesn't like it that a student transfers to gain access to a better program, let them start or upgrade their own program. This is competition. This should drive all schools to hire the best people and run the best programs possible in every area, from Math to Art. And the same principle applies to sports. Let them go where they feel most appreciated, where their learning and playing style best meshes with the coach's teaching and administrative style, where they can develop whatever potential they have to their maximum. You only get four years in high school. For the next 70 years you have to look back on it. You ought to be able to look back without regrets. Too many Kentucky schools want to return to the days of a captive audience, where kids were trapped and the schools could hire good ole boys, school board members' relatives, or hometown heroes, and then the kids had to live with it good or bad. We're moving beyond that and I'm glad. Let the kids go where they want. Let them move in with a friend, let Mom rent an apartment, whatever it takes, if they live too far to drive back and forth every day. I know too many parents are delusional and too many players are difficult to coach, but that's another issue. Truth is, I've seen students who absolutely could not get along with one Math or English teacher and transferred down the hall and made As under another teacher. And I've seen the same with some players and coaches. You see it in college, too. Remember Wayne Chapman and Harry Lancaster, Bob Talent and Coach Rupp, Jay Shidler and Joe Hall, Roderick Rhodes and Rick Pitino. It happens. Let them transfer.

 

AMEN and very well said.

I don't care if you put it all in one paragraph or one sentence. You spelled out a reality that many do not want to hear.

 

Simple truth is that all coaches are not alike and neither are all kids. Not everyone responds to a particular style of coaching. Quite frankly, I have seen and heard coaches do things, and say things while coaching high school kids that are simply unacceptable. I know a coach that told a kid that he was welcome to try out, but that he would never make the team because he had been injured most of the previous season and recovered to slowly in the coach's eyes. I have seen kids cursed, ridiculed, embarrassed, and badgered. All done to motivate them to play better i guess.

 

No way on this earth do I let my child play for such a person. I would instantly transfer him to a place where he could be coached, improved, motivated, pushed, and promoted. Those coaches exist and their programs prosper.

 

Please tell me the coaching style you're referring to above was not part of the previous WV coaches methods. I just can't see it. Either way, with the WV coaching change, Brannen will coach, improve, motivate, push, and promote these boys, if they were to decide to stay at WV, correct?

Please tell me the coaching style you're referring to above was not part of the previous WV coaches methods. I just can't see it. Either way, with the WV coaching change, Brannen will coach, improve, motivate, push, and promote these boys, if they were to decide to stay at WV, correct?

 

No reference on my part to WV previous coach. Have not seen them practice ever, not seen a WV game in person in two years, and not had conversation w/ previous coach in several years.

 

I have seen Brannen's work and like much of what I have seen.

 

My coments related to coaching and why kids want to change programs. Interesting how true the words ring after seeing the tapes on the Rutgers situation this morning.

No reference on my part to WV previous coach. Have not seen them practice ever, not seen a WV game in person in two years, and not had conversation w/ previous coach in several years.

 

I have seen Brannen's work and like much of what I have seen.

 

My coments related to coaching and why kids want to change programs. Interesting how true the words ring after seeing the tapes on the Rutgers situation this morning.

 

The previous WV coach was far from Mike Rice. No comparison what so ever.