May 23, 201214 yr This is fun I'll join in Maybe b/c the Yankees had the highest or one of the highest payrolls forever and they go pay other teams ex closers huge money to pitch those innings. Maybe b/c they had enough money to not need to find a way to get their best pitcher more innings as a starter like the Reds seemingly intend to do with Chapman. Maybe b/c if a starter for the Reds go down anytime soon the most likely replacement is Chapman and they might start working on extending him where the Yankees would most likely have just replaced said starter with a trade. Still doesn't answer the question as to why they wouldn't have their best relief pitcher pitching the 7th or 8th inning to get the "big outs" when needed.
May 23, 201214 yr Still doesn't answer the question as to why they wouldn't have their best relief pitcher pitching the 7th or 8th inning to get the "big outs" when needed. Krusty Baker >>>>>> Joe Torre...End of Discussion :lol:
May 23, 201214 yr Still doesn't answer the question as to why they wouldn't have their best relief pitcher pitching the 7th or 8th inning to get the "big outs" when needed. I think Rivera was used a lot in the 8th inning especially in the playoffs when games mattered a lot more to the Yankees than regular season games because their roster could make up for a few losses in the regular season. Also I did say they pay really good guys pretty big money to pitch the 7th and 8th inning. ie...Rafael Soriano 3 years $35M
May 23, 201214 yr From 05-09 Mo lead the league by a wide margin in saves of more than 1 inning. He has like 116 for his career. From 2005 to 2009, Recorded Save, (requiring IP≥1.1), sorted by greatest number of games matching selected criteria in a game - Baseball-Reference.com http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1831
May 23, 201214 yr I think Rivera was used a lot in the 8th inning especially in the playoffs when games mattered a lot more to the Yankees than regular season games because their roster could make up for a few losses in the regular season. Also I did say they pay really good guys pretty big money to pitch the 7th and 8th inning. ie...Rafael Soriano 3 years $35M I don't care if they paid him $100 million, he still wasn't their best relief pitcher. When Rivera was used in the 8th, he also was brought back out for the 9th.
May 23, 201214 yr I don't care if they paid him $100 million, he still wasn't their best relief pitcher. When Rivera was used in the 8th, he also was brought back out for the 9th. I don't think Dusty will use Chapman in the 8th and bring him back for the 9th. Do you?
May 23, 201214 yr I think Rivera was used a lot in the 8th inning especially in the playoffs when games mattered a lot more to the Yankees than regular season games because their roster could make up for a few losses in the regular season. Also I did say they pay really good guys pretty big money to pitch the 7th and 8th inning. ie...Rafael Soriano 3 years $35M Cincinnati has the best bullpen in the league. Does it really matter when Chapman pitches? I have just as much confidence in Arredondo and Ondrusek as I do in Chapman.
May 23, 201214 yr I don't care if they paid him $100 million, he still wasn't their best relief pitcher. When Rivera was used in the 8th, he also was brought back out for the 9th. And he's not going to pitch the 7th, 8th and 9th, so there's your answer. Obviously you want to save your best reliever for as late in the game as possible, because each pitch/AB becomes more crucial. Rivera was obviously their go to guy in the 9th, and frequently in the 8th inning. Unless you're going to use Rivera for 3 innings, then I think you have your answer...
May 23, 201214 yr I don't think Dusty will use Chapman in the 8th and bring him back for the 9th. Do you? Not unless Chapman throws less than 10 pitches in the 8th...
May 23, 201214 yr I love that people are comparing Mo Rivera and Chapman. Even funnier that they're comparing a Yankees organization that has been willing to outspend and overpay guys for over a decade to fill holes. The Reds don't have that luxury.
May 23, 201214 yr Cincinnati has the best bullpen in the league. Does it really matter when Chapman pitches? I have just as much confidence in Arredondo and Ondrusek as I do in Chapman. No. That's my point. I think he's their best so I'd use him in the toughest spot. I'm cool with anyone you named getting the last 3 outs or Chapman getting them if it's the right time to use him.
May 23, 201214 yr I love that people are comparing Mo Rivera and Chapman. Even funnier that they're comparing a Yankees organization that has been willing to outspend and overpay guys for over a decade to fill holes. The Reds don't have that luxury. Where are these holes at the back of the Reds pen???
May 23, 201214 yr I didn't realize you were a Cardinals fan. Naw, he's one of my closers on my fantasy baseball squad. Scratch that, was one of my closers....smh.....Dumb Dusty.
May 23, 201214 yr Of Chapman’s 17 appearances, he has gone more than one inning in more than a third of them (and again, has been very effective each time). This isn't something he is going to be asked to do every closing situation but he will be fine if this is asked of him. I have seen no signs that he cant recover and pitch effectively whenever asked upon...He doesn't have the innings or experience of MO however I don't know why Chapman wouldn't be able to still go multiple innings when asked too ala MO...We will see with time...He is going to get plenty of rest, not every game is a save situation...When he does come into a save situation I expect him to be very effective...And I have the most confidence in everyone at the back end being in pressure situations in a set up role...
May 23, 201214 yr No. That's my point. I think he's their best so I'd use him in the toughest spot. I'm cool with anyone you named getting the last 3 outs or Chapman getting them if it's the right time to use him. How do you know the toughest spot will be in the 7th? What if the same spot comes back around in the 9th and you've already used your best reliever?
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