I more disapointed that we the people don't get a chance to decide. I want gaming. BUT will accept what the people say. I think that is all every person in KY wants on both sides.

 

I understand and I agree that it is the people that decide. I believe we do this within our system of government when we vote for representatives and senators. We hire them to represent us and our will and legislate accordingly. If we are not pleased, we vote them out. I understand that some folks want to vote on this directly and bypass the legislative system, but that doesn't necessarily have to happen to get the will of the people. If gambling is so popular and such a demand of the people, perhaps the next election cycle, politicians could make this issue their main stance and run on a "effort to legalize gambling promise". If the majority of the people want it that bad, then they would get behind that politician and vote him in along with other politicians in other districts that ran on the same issue. If it is a statewide majority opinion then most, if not all, politicians that ran on that issue would get elected and win. Then the majority wins and the house easily votes it in place. On the other hand, if it was not the will of the majority, then these politicians, for the most part, would not win. It's like this for checks and balances and it has worked for 200 plus years. It is the American way.

 

 

Perhaps some of the pro gambling BGP folks should run for representative or senator? :thumb:

This was a bad bill in the way it was unfairly giving the racetracks preferencial treatment and deserved to be voted down. I am/was in favor of a bill that would give all business a level playing field to bid for the casino licenses. More cronieism from the governor and company.

Kind of like when the people of California voted NO for gay marriage and a federal judge over ruled it. So much for getting to vote or doing what the people want.

I understand and I agree that it is the people that decide. I believe we do this within our system of government when we vote for representatives and senators. We hire them to represent us and our will and legislate accordingly. If we are not pleased, we vote them out. I understand that some folks want to vote on this directly and bypass the legislative system, but that doesn't necessarily have to happen to get the will of the people. If gambling is so popular and such a demand of the people, perhaps the next election cycle, politicians could make this issue their main stance and run on a "effort to legalize gambling promise". If the majority of the people want it that bad, then they would get behind that politician and vote him in along with other politicians in other districts that ran on the same issue. If it is a statewide majority opinion then most, if not all, politicians that ran on that issue would get elected and win. Then the majority wins and the house easily votes it in place. On the other hand, if it was not the will of the majority, then these politicians, for the most part, would not win. It's like this for checks and balances and it has worked for 200 plus years. It is the American way.

 

 

Perhaps some of the pro gambling BGP folks should run for representative or senator? :thumb:

 

I agree. Problem is the people we elect are ignoring what the people want. If you watched the vote on tv plenty of Republicans voted for the bill to give the people a chance to vote on it. They understand the people want to vote on it.

 

I email my state Senator and former governor Julian Carroll and asked him to resign.

This is disappointing...I hate politics.

This was a bad bill in the way it was unfairly giving the racetracks preferencial treatment and deserved to be voted down. I am/was in favor of a bill that would give all business a level playing field to bid for the casino licenses. More cronieism from the governor and company.

 

This.

This was a bad bill in the way it was unfairly giving the racetracks preferencial treatment and deserved to be voted down. I am/was in favor of a bill that would give all business a level playing field to bid for the casino licenses. More cronieism from the governor and company.

 

Whatever bill eventually gets passed, protecting the racetracks must be part of the bill - especially if being done as a constitutional amendment that needs to win before the voters.

I understand and I agree that it is the people that decide. I believe we do this within our system of government when we vote for representatives and senators. We hire them to represent us and our will and legislate accordingly. If we are not pleased, we vote them out. I understand that some folks want to vote on this directly and bypass the legislative system, but that doesn't necessarily have to happen to get the will of the people. If gambling is so popular and such a demand of the people, perhaps the next election cycle, politicians could make this issue their main stance and run on a "effort to legalize gambling promise". If the majority of the people want it that bad, then they would get behind that politician and vote him in along with other politicians in other districts that ran on the same issue. If it is a statewide majority opinion then most, if not all, politicians that ran on that issue would get elected and win. Then the majority wins and the house easily votes it in place. On the other hand, if it was not the will of the majority, then these politicians, for the most part, would not win. It's like this for checks and balances and it has worked for 200 plus years. It is the American way.

 

 

Perhaps some of the pro gambling BGP folks should run for representative or senator? :thumb:

 

The problem with this notion is that we don't get to vote on David Williams. The people of his district do and they in essences are the ones holding it up. Sen. Thayer asked for a delay on the vote because to Senators had to be out of town yesterday and were not present to vote. Their vote would have given the bill the 23 necessary. Senator Williams saw an opportunity and used his position to crush something he doesn't like regardless of what the rest of the state thinks.

Those that want gambling so bad could move to Indiana. :idunno: Then everything would be taken care of. Your state would have gambling and you wouldn't be missing out anymore on all the big revenue. Those that don't want gambling could just stay in KY. Everybody would be happy. Something to think about.

 

I know one time I wanted something pretty bad, and I wasn't happy with the way things were going where I was at, so I decided to move. It was that important to me. Little work, problem solved.

 

 

You know, some of us love Kentucky, love living in Kentucky and really want to see it improve. Gambling in and of itself isn't the issue. The issue is that 1) We aren't even given a say. Ultimately, David Williams controls pretty much everything in Kentucky politics for some reason. 2) There is no alternative EVER offered by the opposition to gambling. Only hyperbole and disregard for letting ALL of the citizen in Kentucky at least be able to vote on it.

This was a bad bill in the way it was unfairly giving the racetracks preferencial treatment and deserved to be voted down. I am/was in favor of a bill that would give all business a level playing field to bid for the casino licenses. More cronieism from the governor and company.

 

The horse racing industry is Kentucky's signature industry. Protecting it is a must. Just last week, one of the top riders in Kentucky announced he was changing his base of operations to New York because of the increased purses at NY tracks ... supplemented by casino gambling. It's a familiar refrain, as top trainers and riders relocate their operations to other states that supplement their purses with casino gaming revenue; other states that don't have their heads in the sand when it comes to this issue.

Can someone explain to me the advantages of gambling? I'm not trying to pick an arguement I'm just not sure why everyone is so much in favor of it.

Can someone explain to me the advantages of gambling? I'm not trying to pick an arguement I'm just not sure why everyone is so much in favor of it.

 

It would bring in a lot of revenue that we are missing out on. The money we lose goes to Cinn and Indiana.

Can someone explain to me the advantages of gambling? I'm not trying to pick an arguement I'm just not sure why everyone is so much in favor of it.

 

A ton of lost revenue (10's of millions of dollars) and a lot of new jobs.

The horse racing industry is Kentucky's signature industry. Protecting it is a must. Just last week, one of the top riders in Kentucky announced he was changing his base of operations to New York because of the increased purses at NY tracks ... supplemented by casino gambling. It's a familiar refrain, as top trainers and riders relocate their operations to other states that supplement their purses with casino gaming revenue; other states that don't have their heads in the sand when it comes to this issue.

Kinda like corporate greed ?

As a Christian I was against it.

 

As for our horse industry and business I was for it. Anything to keep our money in state and help ourselves.

 

Cant have both though.