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Track The NL Central Champion Reds (Week 11)

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From Redsminorleagues.com... Is there a hotter hitter in the system than Zack Cozart right now? He is hitting .488/.511/.837 over his last 10 games and .378 since May began. Of course there is a hotter hitter than Zack Cozart right now and it is teammate Devin Mesoraco who is now hitting .330/.415/.553 on the season and .472/.548/.861 in his last 10 games. Jeremy Hermida continues to rake, now up to .356 on the season.

Cozart is hitting. 315 with 20 Doubles, 1 Triple, 6 Hrs and 5 steals...Last year he hit 30 Doubles, 4 Triples, 17 Hrs, 67 RBI and 30 steals...He has more power, more speed he bats leadoff and is equally as good defensively than Janish...I know these number may not translate and Dusty doesn't like AAA guys but imo he would should get a chance...He's also 3 years younger and Janish has had more than enough opportunity...

 

Two words .... Paul Householder.

 

It kills me how excited people get about every minor league prospect ... and then they forget how long it takes for them to be productive in the majors if they are even able to make it. How long have we been waiting on Jay Bruce to get to where he is? How long have we been waiting on Homer Bailey? I love seeing these guys tear it up in the minors. If the Reds put more than one of them in the starting lineup this year, our season is over.

 

Through 5 innings the Reds have hit a grand total of 3 balls out of the infield, all 3 being their 3 hits.

 

They're facing Ryan FREAKING Dempster of the over 6 ERA for goodness sakes.

 

Dempster is not having a good year overall but 5 of his last 7 starts are quality starts. Over the past three years, he would have been the best pitcher on the Reds staff.

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Two words .... Paul Householder.

 

It kills me how excited people get about every minor league prospect ... and then they forget how long it takes for them to be productive in the majors if they are even able to make it. How long have we been waiting on Jay Bruce to get to where he is? How long have we been waiting on Homer Bailey? I love seeing these guys tear it up in the minors. If the Reds put more than one of them in the starting lineup this year, our season is over.

 

 

 

Dempster is not having a good year overall but 5 of his last 7 starts are quality starts. Over the past three years, he would have been the best pitcher on the Reds staff.

 

The difference is Cozart is 25 and from a big time college program and conference, Bruce and Bailey were straight out of high school...How hard can it be to hit. 200? I don't understand how Cozart and Alonso could be any worse and kill the Reds season like you say...

The difference is Cozart is 25 and from a big time college program and conference, Bruce and Bailey were straight out of high school...How hard can it be to hit. 200? I don't understand how Cozart and Alonso could be any worse and kill the Reds season like you say...

 

You are assuming the numbers they are putting up in AAA are the same they would produce in the majors? Also, Janish is hitting .277 over his last ten games. I think Janish will be around .250 by season's end and if he keeps playing great defense, then a team that is second in the league in runs scored can carry that easily. I am more open to change in LF than at SS.

And then Arredingbat balks a run home. Today,,,the Reds are the Cubs.

You are assuming the numbers they are putting up in AAA are the same they would produce in the majors? Also, Janish is hitting .277 over his last ten games. I think Janish will be around .250 by season's end and if he keeps playing great defense, then a team that is second in the league in runs scored can carry that easily. I am more open to change in LF than at SS.

 

You must have missed where I said the numbers wont neccessarily translate...But I also know Janish hit in the low. 200 during his time in Louisville and never understood how he earned the promotion and those numbers unfortunatley have translated...And once again his defense is overrated, never was very good in the minors and has another error today...He makes the rare spectacular play but he is par with the league at short nothing to justify his playing time...His hits are seeing eye singles, no pop and no way will he ever hit. 250 this year...One other thing Bruce, Votto, Stubbs, Phillips and the catching duo have them in the top of the league offensivley, I didn't know you could ever have enough offense especially when your pitching has been sup par...

^ Janish hit .260 last year ... only 200 AB's but ... a lot of players who start out playing because of defense see their offensive numbers improve over their careers, so it isn't unreasonable to think Janish can hit .250. On the defense, I would like to see his sabermetric defensive numbers. I honestly am not sure how good he is defensively. I base my opinion of his defense on what I hear everyone else say about his defense.

^ Janish hit .260 last year ... only 200 AB's but ... a lot of players who start out playing because of defense see their offensive numbers improve over their careers, so it isn't unreasonable to think Janish can hit .250. On the defense, I would like to see his sabermetric defensive numbers. I honestly am not sure how good he is defensively. I base my opinion of his defense on what I hear everyone else say about his defense.

 

Janish just hit one with pop, you might be onto something :lol: He usually pops out, Ks or gets a lucky seeing eye single...

Two words .... Paul Householder.

 

It kills me how excited people get about every minor league prospect ... and then they forget how long it takes for them to be productive in the majors if they are even able to make it. How long have we been waiting on Jay Bruce to get to where he is? How long have we been waiting on Homer Bailey? I love seeing these guys tear it up in the minors. If the Reds put more than one of them in the starting lineup this year, our season is over.

 

 

 

Dempster is not having a good year overall but 5 of his last 7 starts are quality starts. Over the past three years, he would have been the best pitcher on the Reds staff.

Well Voice, if they won't buy Paul Householder, let's play the Brandon Larson card.

Amen to that...Alonso, Cozart, Francisco, Hermida and Mesoraco are on fire right now and imo have the abilities to do it all year its no fluke...And minor leaguer of the year Dave Sappelt is getting really close to returning...Big shakeups need to take place...I would bring up Alonso for Gomes and Hermida for Lewis...Cozart up for Janish and Francisco for Renteria...You then start Alonso in LF on most days and let Heisey and Hermida fill in now and then, Heisey can play all 3 OF positions and Hermida can play the Corners...Then Francisco can play for Rolen and even fill in in LF or 1b if need be...Cozart starts almost everyday at SS and when he doesn't, move BP to SS and put Cairo at 2b (guys used to play everywhere they weren't specialized, BP could fill in sporadicly at SS, Barney is doing it for the Cubs it can be done) or even put Cairo at SS for a day can't be worse than Edgar...Alonso can also fill in at 1b...With this you also add 2 more left handed bats to the team in Alonso and Francisco, Hermida just replaces Lewis...Alot more potential, youth and versatility with these moves...But they will never happen, I would love to run a team, maybe some day:D

 

I was basically with you until you said move BP to short. You NEVER move BP off of 2nd and it will never happen in 1000000000 years. Joey Votto has as good of chance of playing short as BP. And I 100% agree about Alonso and Cozart. Anything is an upgrade over our left fielders right now and anything is a upgrade offensively over Janish.

I was basically with you until you said move BP to short. You NEVER move BP off of 2nd and it will never happen in 1000000000 years. Joey Votto has as good of chance of playing short as BP. And I 100% agree about Alonso and Cozart. Anything is an upgrade over our left fielders right now and anything is a upgrade offensively over Janish.

 

I know what your saying because he is a gold glove second baseman...But back in the day guys played everywhere...BP at SS would be rare if it happened but im saying he could do it in a pinch especially if it meant getting Janish and Edgar off the team...

Well Voice, if they won't buy Paul Householder, let's play the Brandon Larson card.

 

I think we could start a thread about highly touted minor leaguers who never became much in the majors. Willie Greene anyone? Or how about when the Reds wanted to play Kurt Stillwell at SS over Barry Larkin?

I tihnk we could start a thread about highly touted minor leaguers who never became much in the majors. Willie Greene anyone?

 

I think we could start one with guys that made it to the Bigs but judging by their minor league numbers no one knows how...Ill start Paul Janish...JK I just can't stand Janish...

The whole point nkufan23 and I are trying to make is we're darn near certain Cozart and Alonso can give the Reds at a bare minimum the production Janish/Renteria & Lewis/Gomes are giving them. So IMO at least, it's a win-win situation with zero risk. You bring them up and they aren't ready for the Show and you still get the same production you're already getting. They produce at all and you've improved the team. Where are we wrong in our thinking?

The Reds might as well never call up any prospects because they are sure to be a big bust.

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