I thought it was a great game. Both teams fought hard and in the end the better team won. I couldn't see every penalty from my angle, but those that I did see were blatant. Bickering over the referees is moot anyway. Both fan bases should be proud of their teams and players and Ryle has no reason to feel ashamed.

 

Ryle is well on its way to establishing a powerful program. I expect them to get over that hump sooner than later. While Trinity has no shortage of talented athletes - whether you want to ascribe that to genetic engineering in St. Mathews, their number of boys, private enrollment, more talent in Louisville, whatever - they are better because they have a system that makes them the best. They lose talent every year and always reload, fill the gaps, and adapt to their strengths. They are extremely well coached, disciplined, fired up and focused, and everyone on the team knows their role and executes it. It's a culture and it's a system. For all the eye-rolling about Ryle's development of a feeder program, scheduling tougher competition, community involvement, etc., those are precisely the things they need to be working on to create their own culture and system. I look forward to future Ryle/Trinity matchups and hope the Raiders can add a few to the win column soon. Anyway, congratulations to both teams.

Folks in Union couldn't disagree more. Yes, Ryle probably had their best team that they've ever had but they were not deep. What the feeder program will do is get more kids involved earlier and keep them interested in the community. Ryle football has forever pulled kids from the BCPFL which feeds 4 public HS's, not to mention all of the Catholics and occasionally Highlands. Ryle's hempel, teepen, mullens, mace were good enough to compete with Trinity's studs. Having this system in place may not produce quicks, bishops, or whites but it will allow them to have more kids like the former and they are less likely to play talent-less kids. Ryle will be able to compete with Trinity again and hopefully its not 3-4-5 years down the road.

 

Perhaps as much as anything, it will allow Ryle not to have to play kids like Mullins, Teepen, Hempel, Vollett, Elliott, etc... both ways. I'm not sure I saw any Trinity players that went both ways, at least not full time. In a game like this, against competition the likes of Trinity, going both ways with your best players takes it toll, especially in the second half. You can never have enough depth and the middle school program should help to provide this.

I thought it was a great game. Both teams fought hard and in the end the better team won. I couldn't see every penalty from my angle, but those that I did see were blatant. Bickering over the referees is moot anyway. Both fan bases should be proud of their teams and players and Ryle has no reason to feel ashamed.

 

Ryle is well on its way to establishing a powerful program. I expect them to get over that hump sooner than later. While Trinity has no shortage of talented athletes - whether you want to ascribe that to genetic engineering in St. Mathews, their number of boys, private enrollment, more talent in Louisville, whatever - they are better because they have a system that makes them the best. They lose talent every year and always reload, fill the gaps, and adapt to their strengths. They are extremely well coached, disciplined, fired up and focused, and everyone on the team knows their role and executes it. It's a culture and it's a system. For all the eye-rolling about Ryle's development of a feeder program, scheduling tougher competition, community involvement, etc., those are precisely the things they need to be working on to create their own culture and system. I look forward to future Ryle/Trinity matchups and hope the Raiders can add a few to the win column soon. Anyway, congratulations to both teams.

 

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No one has put Ryle on the same level as T/X/H, only stated that Ryle has a goal of reaching that level and has taken steps to move towards that goal (scheduling, middle school program). Pretty nice goal IMO. Will they ever reach it? Who knows. Probably not. But it is the right goal to set. Ryle indeed does have a nice program, regardless if you want to give them credit or not. After HHS, they have the best overall program in NKY.

 

Before I get taken to task on this, I think I'll amend my statement to say that "after HHS, they have as good a program as any in NKY." I was thinking more larger school at the time of my post and certainly would be remiss to not include NCC and Beechwood as very, very good programs.

I thought it was a great game. Both teams fought hard and in the end the better team won. I couldn't see every penalty from my angle, but those that I did see were blatant. Bickering over the referees is moot anyway. Both fan bases should be proud of their teams and players and Ryle has no reason to feel ashamed.

 

Ryle is well on its way to establishing a powerful program. I expect them to get over that hump sooner than later. While Trinity has no shortage of talented athletes - whether you want to ascribe that to genetic engineering in St. Mathews, their number of boys, private enrollment, more talent in Louisville, whatever - they are better because they have a system that makes them the best. They lose talent every year and always reload, fill the gaps, and adapt to their strengths. They are extremely well coached, disciplined, fired up and focused, and everyone on the team knows their role and executes it. It's a culture and it's a system. For all the eye-rolling about Ryle's development of a feeder program, scheduling tougher competition, community involvement, etc., those are precisely the things they need to be working on to create their own culture and system. I look forward to future Ryle/Trinity matchups and hope the Raiders can add a few to the win column soon. Anyway, congratulations to both teams.

 

Well said!

I thought it was a great game. Both teams fought hard and in the end the better team won. I couldn't see every penalty from my angle, but those that I did see were blatant. Bickering over the referees is moot anyway. Both fan bases should be proud of their teams and players and Ryle has no reason to feel ashamed.

 

Ryle is well on its way to establishing a powerful program. I expect them to get over that hump sooner than later. While Trinity has no shortage of talented athletes - whether you want to ascribe that to genetic engineering in St. Mathews, their number of boys, private enrollment, more talent in Louisville, whatever - they are better because they have a system that makes them the best. They lose talent every year and always reload, fill the gaps, and adapt to their strengths. They are extremely well coached, disciplined, fired up and focused, and everyone on the team knows their role and executes it. It's a culture and it's a system. For all the eye-rolling about Ryle's development of a feeder program, scheduling tougher competition, community involvement, etc., those are precisely the things they need to be working on to create their own culture and system. I look forward to future Ryle/Trinity matchups and hope the Raiders can add a few to the win column soon. Anyway, congratulations to both teams.

 

Agreed.....Very well said.

YOu were doing pretty well -- right up to that point.

 

What can't face the truth. How many stars came up through the catholic system? Quick? Bishop? nope

YOu were doing pretty well -- right up to that point.

 

What can't face the truth. How many stars came up through the catholic system? Quick? Bishop? nope

 

You are going to start seeing more students at both T and X not coming from the catholic grade schools with the rising costs of tuition. Many families have started to put their kids in public schools in order to start saving up for the high schools.

Folks in Union couldn't disagree more. Yes, Ryle probably had their best team that they've ever had but they were not deep. What the feeder program will do is get more kids involved earlier and keep them interested in the community. Ryle football has forever pulled kids from the BCPFL which feeds 4 public HS's, not to mention all of the Catholics and occasionally Highlands. Ryle's hempel, teepen, mullens, mace were good enough to compete with Trinity's studs. Having this system in place may not produce quicks, bishops, or whites but it will allow them to have more kids like the former and they are less likely to play talent-less kids. Ryle will be able to compete with Trinity again and hopefully its not 3-4-5 years down the road.

 

The BCPWFL has now produced Ryle in a state runner up and a final 4 situation. As well as Boone in similiar situations. They are there they are just out manned. You compare it to places like Highlands but they get a lot of players from the CCRD and some players from other systems.

Perhaps as much as anything, it will allow Ryle not to have to play kids like Mullins, Teepen, Hempel, Vollett, Elliott, etc... both ways. I'm not sure I saw any Trinity players that went both ways, at least not full time. In a game like this, against competition the likes of Trinity, going both ways with your best players takes it toll, especially in the second half. You can never have enough depth and the middle school program should help to provide this.

 

The thing is there still using the same body/core of kids, they are just playing in the same system longer, they are not adding kids. By the time these kids are to freshman/JV the coaches know how many are playing both ways when it comes that time.

If the officials had seen the penalties that were taking place, Trinity would have had 30 to 40 yards more. I know you're used to officials being bullied by the mystique of Trinity HS but I believe you are reacting to the call, not the play. Did you actually see some of the holding penalties they were calling? I bet you think it was not OFF Pass Int also. Trinity is the better team but dont act like Ryle was given gifts by the officials. How about this, maybe if Ryle's players were taught to hold on the perimeter and illegally cut defenders, there may have been a few more holes opened offensively.

 

Saw the game on-line, not in person. Most of the calls looked legit to me. A few seemed kind of iffy.

 

As for the "illegally cut defenderes", please provide a reference/quote from the rule book. I've heard teams in the Louisville area complain as well. Talking to T players, they spend a good deal of time on cut blocks, offensively and defensively. I don't know what the official rule book defines as an illegal cut block, but I do know T practices exactly the way they play.

The BCPWFL has now produced Ryle in a state runner up and a final 4 situation. As well as Boone in similiar situations. They are there they are just out manned. You compare it to places like Highlands but they get a lot of players from the CCRD and some players from other systems.

 

Correction Sir,

 

The mental and physical workouts that Bryson Warner and staff put their young men through has produced runner up and final four recognition. There is a message on the coaches office that the players look at everyday walking in and out of the field house: "I came here to win!"-Bryson Warner. The players who can't handle that don't stay. The Union Raiders are working on mental and physical toughness, unlike that joke you call a peewee league, and that is what makes them great!

 

Great Job Seniors! You all are loved and will be missed. Way to make people remember your name!

 

LAY THE WOOD!!

The BCPWFL has now produced Ryle in a state runner up and a final 4 situation. As well as Boone in similiar situations. They are there they are just out manned. You compare it to places like Highlands but they get a lot of players from the CCRD and some players from other systems.

 

 

A state runner up that lost by how many? Ryle's goal is to become a regular state championship team, not a state runner up. We looked into several perrenial state championship football programs in the tri-state area. Every one of them credited a strong feeder program towards their success. The total population that Highlands draws from is less than Ryle, yet year in and year out they could compete with the Louisville schools. They credit their feeder program, not the couple (there are not many) kids who move into their district (which they gave us that info too).

 

*When Ryle freshman come into our program we don't have kids developed at key positions. Instead of having two QB's every grade (like Highlands does), we have none over 2-3 consecutive grades. The freshman have not played together ever, and none of them know Ryle's system or expectations. Ryle kids quit playing football or leave for other schools because they haven't met and played with their future football brothers. Ryle feeder program coaches can put kids into positions they will be seen to play in high school. And then help that kid develop in that position. This vision for a kid's future will keep them playing football too.

*There are kids walking around Ryle high school that used to play football (BCPWFL) and no longer play because they quit when they were young. Some play soccer, some don't do any sports. I don't blame anyone for quitting if they were on a team with no minimum playing time requirements - this creates a situation where a team with 35 kids only plays 15 the whole game. A good feeder program has minimum playing time requirements, not a joke of ten minute running clock after the real game is over. There are many great athletic high school kids that weren't that athletic as a 10 year old.

*Coaches must be professional in their behavior and attitudes, this helps create an environment where young players AND their parents feel positive about the program. A good feeder program will have coaches that are evaluated regularly and then appropriately dismissed or given more responsibility. Kids want to continue to play for good coaches. Coaches must care more about developing football players and character than winning. Winning is a goal, but not at the expense of development.

*Young players should be given a vision for themselves and their future program (when Anderson HS won the state championship their seniors were quoted as saying, "we seniors have been dreaming and working together for this goal for 10 years.") - this happens when Ryle coaches and varsity players visit and teach young Ryle players. This vision happens when young players play and practice at Ryle, in the RaiderNation. This vision keeps kids from leaving or quitting and going to other things. Ryle's senior class this year was awesome, but right off the top of my head I can think of 3 seniors (that would have started and been impact players) that quit or left to go to other schools. When kids have a vision like this they become recruiters and recruit other kids into program too.

*Parents of young players can become involved in the whole varsity program if there is a good feeder program. This creates synergy and excitement for the Ryle football. This in turn keeps parents encouraging their kids to play. It also makes them recruiters for the program. More kids, more good players.

*As a program develops a reputation parents will make efforts to get their kids into the feeder program and eventually the varsity program. There are stories we have heard of parents moving or buying a second home in Ryle district so their kids could play football there. Any student whose parent works for Boone County schools also can choose any high school. Our reputation will help those kids choose Ryle.

*If the team size is over 30 kids will start feeling lost in the numbers. Teams with 40-50 kids on it will for sure hurt kids involvement. Team size must be restricted to managable numbers to keep kids interested and enjoying the program.

*We met with and tried to convince the BCPWFL that these changes needed to happen but they were unwilling or unable (its unclear which) to change. There are many who do believe a great feeder program will help take Ryle football to the next level. And this is based on what we have seen and been told from our interviews with other successful programs.

 

I think you will see that our new feeder program will do all these things. There is no gaurantee that this will make Ryle a perrenial state championship football team, but we feel that this is a major step in the right direction. http://www.unionraidersyf.com

Edited November 28, 201015 yr by scherr

A state runner up that lost by how many? Ryle's goal is to become a regular state championship team, not a state runner up. We looked into several perrenial state championship football programs in the tri-state area. Every one of them credited a strong feeder program towards their success. The total population that Highlands draws from is less than Ryle, yet year in and year out they could compete with the Louisville schools. They credit their feeder program, not the couple (there are not many) kids who move into their district (which they gave us that info too).

 

*When Ryle freshman come into our program we don't have kids developed at key positions. Instead of having two QB's every grade (like Highlands does), we have none over 2-3 consecutive grades. The freshman have not played together ever, and none of them know Ryle's system or expectations. Ryle kids quit playing football or leave for other schools because they haven't met and played with their future football brothers. Ryle feeder program coaches can put kids into positions they will be seen to play in high school. And then help that kid develop in that position. This vision for a kid's future will keep them playing football too.

*There are kids walking around Ryle high school that used to play football (BCPWFL) and no longer play because they quit when they were young. Some play soccer, some don't do any sports. I don't blame anyone for quitting if they were on a team with no minimum playing time requirements - this creates a situation where a team with 35 kids only plays 15 the whole game. A good feeder program has minimum playing time requirements, not a joke of ten minute running clock after the real game is over. There are many great athletic high school kids that weren't that athletic as a 10 year old.

*Coaches must be professional in their behavior and attitudes, this helps create an environment where young players AND their parents feel positive about the program. A good feeder program will have coaches that are evaluated regularly and then appropriately dismissed or given more responsibility. Kids want to continue to play for good coaches. Coaches must care more about developing football players and character than winning. Winning is a goal, but not at the expense of development.

*Young players should be given a vision for themselves and their future program (when Anderson HS won the state championship their seniors were quoted as saying, "we seniors have been dreaming and working together for this goal for 10 years.") - this happens when Ryle coaches and varsity players visit and teach young Ryle players. This vision happens when young players play and practice at Ryle, in the RaiderNation. This vision keeps kids from leaving or quitting and going to other things. Ryle's senior class this year was awesome, but right off the top of my head I can think of 3 seniors (that would have started and been impact players) that quit or left to go to other schools. When kids have a vision like this they become recruiters and recruit other kids into program too.

*Parents of young players can become involved in the whole varsity program if there is a good feeder program. This creates synergy and excitement for the Ryle football. This in turn keeps parents encouraging their kids to play. It also makes them recruiters for the program. More kids, more good players.

*As a program develops a reputation parents will make efforts to get their kids into the feeder program and eventually the varsity program. There are stories we have heard of parents moving or buying a second home in Ryle district so their kids could play football there. Any student whose parent works for Boone County schools also can choose any high school. Our reputation will help those kids choose Ryle.

*We met with and tried to convince the BCPWFL that these changes needed to happen but they were unwilling or unable (its unclear which) to change. There are many who do believe a great feeder program will help take Ryle football to the next level. And this is based on what we have seen and been told from our interviews with other successful programs.

 

I think you will see that our new feeder program will do all these things. There is no gaurantee that this will make Ryle a perrenial state championship football team, but we feel that this is a major step in the right direction. http://www.unionraidersyf.com

 

Agree with everything you have posted, but this. Highlands and the best Louisville schools have a difficult time scheduling each other....still continues.

Agree with everything you have posted, but this. Highlands and the best Louisville schools have a difficult time scheduling each other....still continues.

 

That's not really relevant to the issue - Trinity and Highlands scrimmaged this year - Highlands lost by 7. Highlands has played Cincy St.X and other bigtime programs and won. They have had VERY good teams over the past ten years. I am sure you would agree that some of these Highlands teams could have been very competitive with the past ten Louisville Trinity and X teams. The point is that due to a great feeder program, great coaching and a great reputation/winning attitude they COULD have won a couple 6A championships over the past ten years with the limited population they draw from.