And Wyoming has 5 titles for 57 teams.

 

Everyone might want to look at this thread to see what other states do.

 

http://www.bluegrasspreps.com/showthread.php?t=80712

 

 

So they are more flawed than KY-hooorah!

 

How about striving to have the best system, where money and trying to make everybody feel happy is not part of it?

No, they split them because the rest of the state complained that a Louisville school always got into the state finals, thinking that splitting them up would make it so two out-in-the-state schools could meet in the finals.

You are probably right but from 75-87 Lville won 9 out 13 Championships so not sure why state teams would want to give them a chance to get 2 in which they did the in 88. From 89 to 96 Lville only had the chance to get 1 team in and did every year except 1.97 until now Lville has had the chance to get 2 teams in and have 6 out of 8 years. Lville teams have won 24 out of 30 4A championships with X and Trin winning 20 of those. Basically 4A is pretty even if you take X and TRin out...3A is pretty even if you take out Boyle and FTH and 1A is pretty even if you take out Bwood and Dville.

How about striving to have the best system, where money and trying to make everybody feel happy is not part of it?

 

Definately :thumb:

Why can't private schools with quite a few advantages win in 1A. 2A, and 3A?

 

 

Because Beechwood, Danville, Mayfield, Belfry, Highlands, & Boyle Co. don't sit around whining about inequities....They do what it takes to get the athletes out, get them to their highlest athletic ability possible, and out X & O the opponent on Friday nights!!!!!!

Why can't private schools with quite a few advantages win in 1A. 2A, and 3A?

There arent quite as many athlets to recruit as there are in Lville.

Clearly, with all of the input on this and prior threads - the system is broke. I think Sandman is on to something. Differences in enrollment need greater consideration - it is the basis for the disparity; where having equal numbers of teams in each division is an arbitrary quest. Seams to me, a state with as few teams as Ky could crown champions before December. Having districts where fewer than half of a team's games count for anything other than experience is indicative of a broken system. Larger districts where nearly every game counts, and fewer rounds of playoffs - with little chance of a rematch - say outside of the finals, might be worth a try. :confused:

Adding two classes will give the small 4A and small A more of a chance to compete for a title as opposed to small 4A (Bryan Station for example) competing with schools that might have 4 to 6 hundred more kids to choose from.

 

Once again, you might as well give everyone a participation ribbon to make them "FEEL" good about themselves. Please!!!!!!

What is wrong for allowing kids a realistic chance to win a championship in the class level they are at. " Private" schools have quite few advantages that make it hard for a Public school to compete at that level year after year. .

 

Have you ever heard of Highlands, Boyle Co, Mayfield, Danville, Beechwood, Belfry etc Trinity and St X have a huge numbers advantage as far as boys in their school. If you can ever come up with a logical answer to even things out for 4A then please let the state know. The other Private schools are nowhere close to the number of boys they have. I think there is a huge misconception that all Private schools have the numbers X and T have. It's apples to oranges comparing those two schools to the other Privates. That's why you see public schools win the state in 1A, 2A and 3A.

Keep it at four classes of 50 teams each, with four teams from each of the current classifications making up a 5th, 16 team class. These 16 teams would be placed based on how much they complain and whine about how everyone hates them and won't let them have a championship trophy. This would be a flexible class as once a team wins a championship they would be banished never to return, being replaced by the next whiner in line.

 

I just cant come up a name for this class.

I think the four classes we have are fine. I would like to see maybe an eight man division, but thats not likely. I think the only people that should be commplaining are the 4a schools that dont have a chance against X or trinity. In which case X and T should be moved up too semi-pro.

 

Look at Rockcastle, 3a, only school in county, county doesn't have any major employment, no wal-mart, no large grocery store, the majority of the commerce is gas and fast food thanks to the interstate. I said all that to say this, if a school like Rockcastle can find homegrown kids to work hard and be well coached, they can go just as far as Rockcastle has. And maybe even win state title.

 

Just think if it werent for cindarella stories we would have movies like Hoosiers

or Rudy

A ridiculous idea.

:thumb: Kentucky is barely large enough. population-wise to justify four classes. Increasing the number of classes would add to the travel expenses of rural schools. Everytime Johnson Central gets bumped up to 4A, its average one-way trip to a district away game jumps to over two hours. The more classes there are, the greater the average distance will be between district opponents. It's not worth tens of thousands of dollars in extra travelling expenses to crown one or two more state champs.

How about 1 class, 1 champion.

 

You can't be serious? There is a reason that no state does this, ... the enrollment numbers do make a huge difference in football moreso than in any other sport. Many of the larger schools have more kids on the football team than many smaller schools have in the entire school!

I think most coaches probably see 6 classes as a way to promote more participation in the sport.

Clearly, with all of the input on this and prior threads - the system is broke. I think Sandman is on to something. Differences in enrollment need greater consideration - it is the basis for the disparity; where having equal numbers of teams in each division is an arbitrary quest. Seams to me, a state with as few teams as Ky could crown champions before December. Having districts where fewer than half of a team's games count for anything other than experience is indicative of a broken system. Larger districts where nearly every game counts, and fewer rounds of playoffs - with little chance of a rematch - say outside of the finals, might be worth a try. :confused:

 

I don't like seeing districts where every team makes the playoffs, but I also don't see a problem with the number of playoff games currently being played. In basketball every team makes the playoffs but you will never hear anyone shouting to limit the number of teams who make the postseason by their finish in the district because it is basketball in Kentucky and Heaven knows we cannot tamper with that sacred cow.

 

I am not advocating that all team make the playoffs in football, but if teams who probably have little or not shot to win a state title make the playoffs and get an extra game or 2, what's the harm in that? Many little league and middle school teams get to play more games than the high school kids do as it is right now. Let's say you cut out one round of the playoffs out and only have 2 teams from each district that make it, then you will have 64 fewer teams who don't qualify, what do you really gain? Approximately 2,500+ kids who lost the chance to play 1 more game. Scott County, a #4 seed would not have had the chance to play in the playoffs and knock off a #1 seed as they did this season.

Great point. Especially the basketball comparison!