If you're dying to split it up, it makes more sense to do five classes. It still serves the purpose of separating the hi-lo enrollment schools in 4A and 1A, while still avoiding watering down the playoffs (at least, not as much as six classes).

 

With five classes, you end up with about 43 schools per class, if you're using the 217 number.

There is no justification for having 6 classes in Kentucky. Not enough teams. I am okay with the 4 class system, and while I don't think our state has enough to justify it, I could possibly be in favor of having 5 classes even though I think that does dilute it a little bit too much for me. But 6? I just don't see it. By the KHSAA website, there are actually 220 teams participating (some in JV or nondistrict action as of 2005). That would be 44 teams per class. 4 regions each would be 11 per region which is not that much smaller than the 54 (13.5 average teams per region) we have now. But 6 classes would have an average of 36.67 teams per class, just over 9 per region. Too small in my opinion. But 5 classes might encourage some of the schools just starting football (JV) or only playing a non district schedule to participate in district/varsity football.

 

By comparison, currently, for basketball in KY, we have 16 regions for 275 teams (around 17 teams per region) for 1 title, and we are one of the few states still with only 1 basketball title (not counting the All A State Tournament).

 

The bottom line is that I have no problem with the 4 class system, I could possibly be swayed to a 5 class system, but there is no way that KY needs 6 classes for football. Far too diluted.

Well said.

 

Why don't we make 217 classes and give everyone a trophy.

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm still waiting to hear specifics on why we need this. What would the new system do the old wouldn't.

I'm still waiting to hear specifics on why we need this. What would the new system do the old wouldn't.

 

We've gone over this, pay attention. We have too many kids in this state that are losing football games. They are not winning state championships and quite frankly, they all deserve one. This will give some of those teams that may not currently have a shot at winning a state title, that opportunity. Two more state champions a year will give well over 100 kids the enjoyment of winning a state title that they wouldn't otherwise earn...I mean win. :fire:

We've gone over this, pay attention. We have too many kids in this state that are losing football games. They are not winning state championships and quite frankly, they all deserve one. This will give some of those teams that may not currently have a shot at winning a state title, that opportunity. Two more state champions a year will give well over 100 kids the enjoyment of winning a state title that they wouldn't otherwise earn...I mean win. :fire:

How bout we keep the same classes , but only allow a team to win it once untill everyone else gets a turn at being champ?

How bout we keep the same classes , but only allow a team to win it once untill everyone else gets a turn at being champ?

 

 

Or better yet let's just not keep score and everybody gets a trophy like they do when your 6 :lol: :lol:

Or better yet let's just not keep score and everybody gets a trophy like they do when your 6 :lol: :lol:

I never got my trophy when I was 6. :cry: :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I did get to run with a football when I was 7.

Here's a little bit of an idea how it might work. This is using the 2002 enrollment data; since that was the best the KHSAA had available. In this example, 1A, 3A and 5A each have 36 teams. The others each have 35 teams.

 

A

Beth Haven

Pineville

Jenkins

Paris

Fulton City

Fairview

Harrodsburg

Kentucky Country Day

Williamsburg

Paintsville

Fulton County

Bellevue

Caverna

Ludlow

Phelps

Dayton

Harlan

Raceland

Fleming-Neon

Berea

Bethlehem

Beechwood

Cumberland

Frankfort

Nicholas County

Holy Cross (Louisville)

Hazard

Lynn Camp

Russellville

Pikeville

Campbellsville

Lexington Christian

Ballard Memorial

Mayfield

Crittenden County

South Floyd

 

2A

Evarts

Metcalfe County

Hancock County

Trimble County

Allen Central

Newport Central Catholic

Murray

Holy Cross (Covington)

McLean County

Danville

Carroll County

Somerset

Christian Academy-Louisville

Bath County

Fort Knox

Owen County

Bardstown

Green County

Todd County Central

West Carter

Glasgow

Middlesboro

Trigg County

Corbin

Edmonson County

Fort Campbell

Reidland

Whitesburg

Monroe County

Lloyd Memorial

Washington County

Heath

Shawnee

Webster County

Henry County

 

 

3A

Caldwell County

Moore

Belfry

Butler County

Breathitt County

Newport

Shelby Valley

Western

Mercer County

DeSales

Garrard County

Morgan County

Owensboro Catholic

Casey County

Hart County

Leslie County

East Carter

Prestonsburg

Pike County Central

East Ridge

Fleming County

Larue County

Lewis County

Russell

Muhlenberg South

North Oldham

Knott County Central

Elizabethtown

Estill County

Powell County

Sheldon Clark

Russell County

Wayne County

Lone Oak

Cawood

Magoffin County

 

 

4A

Union County

Adair County

Taylor County

Mason County

Paducah Tilghman

Franklin-Simpson

Madison Southern

Highlands

Lawrence County

Pendleton County

Western Hills

Rockcastle County

West Jessamine

Bourbon County

Fairdale

Boyle County

Bell County

Warren East

Knox Central

Bullitt East

Lexington Catholic

Allen County-Scottsville

North Bullitt

Waggener

Breckinridge County

Marion County

Franklin County

Hopkins County Central

Greenup County

South Oldham

Harrison County

East Jessamine

Calloway County

Logan County

Anderson County

 

5A

Doss

Grant County

Covington Catholic

Boyd County

Valley

Central

Ashland Blazer

Bowling Green

Hopkinsville

Oldham County

Pulaski Southwestern

Clay County

Lincoln County

Pulaski County

Madisonville-North Hopkins

Jeffersontown

Perry County Central

Owensboro

Iroquois

Holmes

Atherton

Johnson Central

Montgomery County

Warren Central

Dixie Heights

Scott

Woodford County

Whitley County

John Hardin

Barren County

Fern Creek

South Laurel

Ohio County

North Laurel

Grayson County

Bullitt Central

 

 

6A

Ryle

Graves County

Simon Kenton

Conner

Christian County

Greenwood

Boone County

Apollo

Southern

Marshall County

Madison Central

George Rogers Clark

Nelson County

Bryan Station

Shelby County

Central Hardin

Campbell County

Meade County

Butler

North Hardin

Scott County

Daviess County

Male

Henderson County

Eastern

Henry Clay

Ballard

Seneca

Tates Creek

DuPont Manual

Pleasure Ridge Park

Lafayette

Paul Dunbar

Trinity (Louisville)

St. Xavier

How bout we keep the same classes , but only allow a team to win it once untill everyone else gets a turn at being champ?

 

Or better yet, let's just make 12 classes and you play 6 games. The best records at the end of the season go out together for pizza and ice cream.

I can't see that it helps the 1A people, it helps Dixie to win a title as we would fall in 5A. It splits HHS and CCH up, as HHS would be 4A and CCH in 5A. I don't like it. The classes are too small. Try a 5 Class model. That might look better.

Here's a suggestion:

 

1a, 2a, 3a, 4a - public schools

 

small, large - private schools

:)

I can't see that it helps the 1A people, it helps Dixie to win a title as we would fall in 5A. It splits HHS and CCH up, as HHS would be 4A and CCH in 5A. I don't like it. The classes are too small. Try a 5 Class model. That might look better.

 

I agree. 6 is too many. 5 is the absolute max unless Kentucky picks up a bunch more schools playing football. Personally, I wish all 275 that play basketball would play football.

Or better yet, let's just make 12 classes and you play 6 games. The best records at the end of the season go out together for pizza and ice cream.

 

 

But what if we don't like the same kind of pizza and or ice cream???

I like 4.

 

I could live with 5.

 

I think 6 is tooooooo many.