EZ Living Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Are the Red's players just that bad or do you feel the Red's manager and coaching staff did a terrible job of getting the team ready to start the season? I for one while watching spring training felt that they kept entirely too many players in camp right up until the last week before cutting down. I don't think that hitters got enough work against live pitching and the pitchers didn't get enough innings. Look at the stats for the starting 8 and starting pitchers and tell us what you think. Stubbs .170 / Dickerson .244 Cabrera .254 Votto .290 Phillips .217 Rolen .260 Bruce .180 Gomes .213 Hernandez .222 Harang 8.31 Arroyo 7.43 Cueto 5.73 Bailey 7.47 Leake 3.92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekubum Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 This has been as disheartning a start to a Reds season as I can remember factoring in expectations. Very disheartning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mathemagician Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 The players aren't that great but some are better than what they've shown thus far. Baker, Price, and Jacoby are collectively almost as inept as Marvin Lewis. All need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoesGym Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 This has been as disheartning a start to a Reds season as I can remember factoring in expectations. Very disheartning. That is a large part of the problem. Lots of Reds fans on this site, as well as in general had unrealistic expectations of this team. The team does not have the roster, nor the management to be a contender this season. They have a lot of young talent with potential but it is just that potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 This has been as disheartning a start to a Reds season as I can remember factoring in expectations. Very disheartning. Possibly back to the year that Tony Perez was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Anthony Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 That is a large part of the problem. Lots of Reds fans on this site, as well as in general had unrealistic expectations of this team. The team does not have the roster, nor the management to be a contender this season. They have a lot of young talent with potential but it is just that potential. I understand your point and would agree with this team. But Cincy is a big baseball city who hasn't had a winner in over a decade. They don't want the Pirates conditioning of expecting to lose every year. I agree and hope they can make changes starting within the organization that will transfer over on to the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOMELESS CAMEL Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Funny thing is, more than a few of us knew it would likely end up crashing and burning as soon as Dusty was hired. Reds are young, they have some pieces, you can't put it all on the coaching staff, but there needs to be a change. WHEN Dusty goes, I'm not sure who they would turn to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newarkcatholicfan Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 As a player I liked Baker as a manager he is not that good I.M.O. coupled with the fact he does not have many good players and this is the results you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I have a feeling he gonna get fired this week. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCPATS Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 The base running has been pathetic. Unreal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Living Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 The base running has been pathetic. Unreal... From day one Dusty said he was a big believer in fundamentals and I've watched them come out of spring training every year he's been here and make stupid mistakes that are merely fundamentals. I know you can blame that on coaching at the lower levels but these guys should have had a lot of this stuff drilled in their heads this spring. That is what spring training is for to sharpen your skills and get your mindset ready for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashMVP Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 The base running has been pathetic. Unreal... Cant see them firing Dusty this week. Maybe after May 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malachicrunch Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 That is a large part of the problem. Lots of Reds fans on this site, as well as in general had unrealistic expectations of this team. The team does not have the roster, nor the management to be a contender this season. They have a lot of young talent with potential but it is just that potential. I agree. Anyone with any realistic outlook knew this team had very little chance at getting to .500 much less competing for a playoff birth. You can't win with only 2 players that are above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurecoach Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 This team seems like they like to fool us and make us think they are in contention for the first few months before they drop off. Hopefully they are doing the opposite this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Cant see them firing Dusty this week. Maybe after May 15th What is special about May 15th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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