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Joker Phillips on recruiting: "We've got to own Cincinnati"

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And here I thought I was the only one that really got UK fans torn up around here.

 

Really? We've could've made a living of it for most of the last decade.

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The key to tapping even a small amount of talent in Cincinnati on a regular basis is someone directly tied to the football community in the city. Who is that person on the UK staff? Who does he expect to fill that role???

 

Maybe Rock Oliver? :idunno:

The key to tapping even a small amount of talent in Cincinnati on a regular basis is someone directly tied to the football community in the city. Who is that person on the UK staff? Who does he expect to fill that role???

This is the whole key, and UK has never had that type of guy on their staff.

 

UK should have made inroads into the Cincinnati market many years ago. It is a natural.....it's an hour and a half drive and it's an opportunity to play in the SEC. Those are the two basic points to sell.

 

"Gametime" is right. UK will never control the Cincinnati market. I see the Queen City as always being divided territory for many schools. Heck, if UC could "own" Cincinnati, they would have been a consistant powerhouse.

 

One of the big keys is television. Cincinnati kids grow up watching Big Ten, Notre Dame, and UC football. Funny, that is where nearly all the kids end up going to school.

This is the whole key, and UK has never had that type of guy on their staff.

 

UK should have made inroads into the Cincinnati market many years ago. It is a natural.....it's an hour and a half drive and it's an opportunity to play in the SEC. Those are the two basic points to sell.

 

"Gametime" is right. UK will never control the Cincinnati market. I see the Queen City as always being divided territory for many schools. Heck, if UC could "own" Cincinnati, they would have been a consistant powerhouse.

 

One of the big keys is television. Cincinnati kids grow up watching Big Ten, Notre Dame, and UC football. Funny, that is where nearly all the kids end up going to school.

Is that really the case any more? Maybe when ND had its own TV network. There are a 100 games on every week, I find it hard to believe that they choose to watch those that you listed over a game that is better in another conference.

The key to tapping even a small amount of talent in Cincinnati on a regular basis is someone directly tied to the football community in the city. Who is that person on the UK staff? Who does he expect to fill that role???

 

And Ted Lambrinides should be a plus too.

And here I thought I was the only one that really got UK fans torn up around here.

 

Hey man, here's one UK fan you don't bother. :thumb: I always like reading your stuff on here man.

 

And that's my point. Saying it and doing it in terms of what it takes to have an impact in Cincinnati are two different things. Simply being down the road, and having a large alumni base across the "moat" aren't going to make that happen. I like what Joker has done so far in the hires he has made, but none of them at this point are going to do anything other than put his foot in his mouth over this comment...

 

Don't you think you're taking Joker a little too seriously? All coaches, even your beloved Coach Jones are going to make comments like that at some point in time. If Joker, or any other coach that was going to try to recruit Cincy (or any other area) and didn't have a goal of making it one of "their" areas, I wouldn't want them to be in charge of my schools recruiting. It's sort of like a President saying he's going to work for world peace or to eliminate the National Debt. Probably won't happen, but it's a great goal to have.:thumb:

And I'm serious about Specht. If you really want to make a splash up here, that's how you do it...

 

:thumb:He's done a great job of recruiting the Cincinnati area...:D That was a joke.

It's sort of like a President saying he's going to work for world peace or to eliminate the National Debt. Probably won't happen, but it's a great goal to have.:thumb:

 

:thumb:

If Joker, or any other coach that was going to try to recruit Cincy (or any other area) and didn't have a goal of making it one of "their" areas, I wouldn't want them to be in charge of my schools recruiting.

 

He's been in charge of UK's recruiting for how many years and didn't recruit Cincinnati??? :sssh:

He's been in charge of UK's recruiting for how many years and didn't recruit Cincinnati??? :sssh:

 

So..... ?

 

You aren't allowed to change philosophies?

So..... ?

 

You aren't allowed to change philosophies?

Sure. Joker is just going to snap his fingers and dominate recruiting in a city they have little to no presence... :thumb: :lol:

Sure. Joker is just going to snap his fingers and dominate recruiting in a city they have little to no presence... :thumb: :lol:

 

I'm sure that's exactly what he meant :thumb:

I'm sure that's exactly what he meant :thumb:

It's exactly what he SAID... :idunno: :lol:

It's exactly what he SAID... :idunno: :lol:

 

No doubt. He knows he is going to come in and swoop up every recruit in the area that he wants. He's been around long enough and knows that's how it works.

As "Gametime" has pointed out, UK was able to get Alex Smith because of his family's extensive Kentucky background. Alex Smith had told Coach Phillips that he dreamed of playing for Kentucky growing up, and Coach Phillips challenged him to live his dream like he was doing.

 

I think getting a top kid out of Cincinnati has Joker wanting more. He should want more and with the logistics, I say, he should get more, but Kentucky has done an extremely poor job laying any foundation to recruit southwestern Ohio in the past.

 

There will be more staff changes for UK football next season (Coach Ortmeyer and maybe Coach Brown), and Coach Phillips is savy enough to look to get a coach with extensive ties to southwestern Ohio recruiting.

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