Is it worth the risk of heat exaustion,heat stroke or even death? Your thoughts?

NO!!!!!

Is it worth the risk of heat exaustion,heat stroke or even death? Your thoughts?

We do our 2-a-days (at Louisville Western) a little different. We bring them in at 8 AM and go out and do our running/conditioning program for about 45 minutes (in t-shirts & shorts), then come inside and lift for about an hour. The players are all on their way home by 10 AM. We start this schedule on July 15th and continue until the week before school starts.

 

We bring them back in the evening (they are in stretch lines at 8 PM) for the "football" part of practice. We stretch then get right into individual drills for about 20 minutes, spend about 30 minutes on special teams then scrimmage the rest of the time. We are off the field at 9:30 PM. I drive the activity bus for the kids that live more than a couple miles from the school (about 10% of our kids) and get them home by 11:00 PM. We also pick them up for the evening practice, but for the AM workouts, they have to get there and back home on their own.

 

This is a three-fold strategy.

 

First, the kids think they are getting a break not having to be out in the hottest part of the day (2-6 PM). They practice MUCH harder in the late evening in the cooler temps, and knowing that they don't have the dreaded sprints at the end of practice.

 

Second, it gives the players (and coaches) all afternoon to take care of personal matters, get some rest or even go to work.

 

Third, with the kids getting home so late, and knowing they must be back at 8 AM the following day, they don't have time to go out and run the streets and get in trouble.

 

You wouldn't believe how much more tolerable it is at 8 PM as opposed to 6 PM to start practice in.

I know some of the states most successful coaches that do not do 2 a days. So my answer is NO as well.

I am confused/out of the loop on this, I thought I read they were going away from it?

We do our 2-a-days (at Louisville Western) a little different. We bring them in at 8 AM and go out and do our running/conditioning program for about 45 minutes (in t-shirts & shorts), then come inside and lift for about an hour. The players are all on their way home by 10 AM. We start this schedule on July 15th and continue until the week before school starts.

 

We bring them back in the evening (they are in stretch lines at 8 PM) for the "football" part of practice. We stretch then get right into individual drills for about 20 minutes, spend about 30 minutes on special teams then scrimmage the rest of the time. We are off the field at 9:30 PM. I drive the activity bus for the kids that live more than a couple miles from the school (about 10% of our kids) and get them home by 11:00 PM. We also pick them up for the evening practice, but for the AM workouts, they have to get there and back home on their own.

 

This is a three-fold strategy.

 

First, the kids think they are getting a break not having to be out in the hottest part of the day (2-6 PM). They practice MUCH harder in the late evening in the cooler temps, and knowing that they don't have the dreaded sprints at the end of practice.

 

Second, it gives the players (and coaches) all afternoon to take care of personal matters, get some rest or even go to work.

 

Third, with the kids getting home so late, and knowing they must be back at 8 AM the following day, they don't have time to go out and run the streets and get in trouble.

 

You wouldn't believe how much more tolerable it is at 8 PM as opposed to 6 PM to start practice in.

 

 

 

I'm inclined to say no, but I think if absolutely necessary, this is the best way to do it.

I really like the fact that you guys pick up and bus home the ones that are farther from the school.:thumb:

I am confused/out of the loop on this, I thought I read they were going away from it?

 

I heard Kentucky was trying to have them banned,but I don't know if it has happened yet.

Two a days are probably safer than the alternative. Two a days allow teams to schedule around the heat. Ban two a days and schools will just have longer single practice sessions that will run into the heat of the day. So then I guess we have to pass a law that says no practice allowed between the hours of 10 and 6. So then teams start practice at 6 pm and run till 9:30 or 10. Then someone says you have to limit practice to 3 hours or end them by 9:00 .... and on and on and on. And no matter what you do, some child on some field is going to die from an unusual and unforeseeable incident. You can't make enough laws that will prevent every single possible tragedy.

 

Here is what I propose. Educate coaches and AD's on safety and put responsibility for safety on the AD's. Make the AD's the enforcer and let parents know to address any concerns to the AD's. If the AD's know they are on the hook and it is their responsibility, then things will run as safely as possible. This gets parents out of having to address their kid's coaches and worrying about any impact from that. Finally, if you are a parent of a player, go watch practice. Ask your child about practice. If everyone takes on their share of responsibility, we will keep our children as safe as we can. And still some child, somewhere is going to die because we are all fallible humans and accidents happen. Let's just make sure everyone behaves responsibly, do the best we can and pray for everyone's safety.

Two a days are probably safer than the alternative. Two a days allow teams to schedule around the heat. Ban two a days and schools will just have longer single practice sessions that will run into the heat of the day. So then I guess we have to pass a law that says no practice allowed between the hours of 10 and 6. So then teams start practice at 6 pm and run till 9:30 or 10. Then someone says you have to limit practice to 3 hours or end them by 9:00 .... and on and on and on. And no matter what you do, some child on some field is going to die from an unusual and unforeseeable incident. You can't make enough laws that will prevent every single possible tragedy.

 

Here is what I propose. Educate coaches and AD's on safety and put responsibility for safety on the AD's. Make the AD's the enforcer and let parents know to address any concerns to the AD's. If the AD's know they are on the hook and it is their responsibility, then things will run as safely as possible. This gets parents out of having to address their kid's coaches and worrying about any impact from that. Finally, if you are a parent of a player, go watch practice. Ask your child about practice. If everyone takes on their share of responsibility, we will keep our children as safe as we can. And still some child, somewhere is going to die because we are all fallible humans and accidents happen. Let's just make sure everyone behaves responsibly, do the best we can and pray for everyone's safety.

 

I agree with most of this. However the responsibility falls on the trainer. A trainer who is required to be on site, has the authority to pull kids out and shut practice down completely if the heat rises above the acceptable limit. If schools do not have this policy in place, they are asking for bad things to happen.

I agree with most of this. However the responsibility falls on the trainer. A trainer who is required to be on site, has the authority to pull kids out and shut practice down completely if the heat rises above the acceptable limit. If schools do not have this policy in place, they are asking for bad things to happen.

 

Good point, as long as the trainer and coach both know the trainer has this authority.

I agree with most of this. However the responsibility falls on the trainer. A trainer who is required to be on site, has the authority to pull kids out and shut practice down completely if the heat rises above the acceptable limit. If schools do not have this policy in place, they are asking for bad things to happen.

 

Very few schools have a full time trainer.

Two a days are probably safer than the alternative. Two a days allow teams to schedule around the heat. Ban two a days and schools will just have longer single practice sessions that will run into the heat of the day. So then I guess we have to pass a law that says no practice allowed between the hours of 10 and 6. So then teams start practice at 6 pm and run till 9:30 or 10. Then someone says you have to limit practice to 3 hours or end them by 9:00 .... and on and on and on. And no matter what you do, some child on some field is going to die from an unusual and unforeseeable incident. You can't make enough laws that will prevent every single possible tragedy.

 

Here is what I propose. Educate coaches and AD's on safety and put responsibility for safety on the AD's. Make the AD's the enforcer and let parents know to address any concerns to the AD's. If the AD's know they are on the hook and it is their responsibility, then things will run as safely as possible. This gets parents out of having to address their kid's coaches and worrying about any impact from that. Finally, if you are a parent of a player, go watch practice. Ask your child about practice. If everyone takes on their share of responsibility, we will keep our children as safe as we can. And still some child, somewhere is going to die because we are all fallible humans and accidents happen. Let's just make sure everyone behaves responsibly, do the best we can and pray for everyone's safety.

 

Very intelligent insight, and one that I agree with completely. You can't legislate every possible situation.:thumb:

I know some of the states most successful coaches that do not do 2 a days. So my answer is NO as well.

 

Amen....Activity does not equal Achievement.....:thumb:

Very few schools have a full time trainer.

 

Not sure, why, but I thought it was a mandate that a trainer had to be on site during athletic activities. Maybe I am mistaken about this. If I am then it should be.

I know some of the states most successful coaches that do not do 2 a days. So my answer is NO as well.

 

What top programs don't run two a days?