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Debate #3

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A point that McCain missed to hammer home the Obama taxing.

 

Obama talked about the need to get the automakers back to working.

I guess he feels the best way to do that is to raise their corporate tax rate. Yeah, raise the taxes that Ford, Chevrolet and Chrysler has to pay. That will increase jobs.

 

US has the 2nd highest corporate tax rates in the world and we wonder why businesses are taking jobs overseas.

 

How much tax could they be paying considering they are losing money every quarter?

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How much tax could they be paying considering they are losing money every quarter?

 

This post evidences a fundamental misunderstanding of business taxes.

The full debate is on youtube courtesy of CSPAN if anyone wants to look over it again.

Here is my best analogy of last night's debate.

 

Team Obama was up 7-2 going in to the eigth innning. Team McCain hits a solo homerun to make the game 7-3. Time for the ninth innning. Rivera is running from the bullpen to close it out.

:thumb::thumb: I agree on all that you have said, especially the ACORN comment, Obama had no clue how to answer and he ducked it. My new name for Obama is "Ducky". :lol:

 

 

:thumb::laugh:

And your new name for him would be justified. Obama seems to have a pattern of ducking all questions when it contains facts about his true policies and beliefs.

Here is my best analogy of last night's debate.

 

Team Obama was up 7-2 going in to the eigth innning. Team McCain hits a solo homerun to make the game 7-3. Time for the ninth innning. Rivera is running from the bullpen to close it out.

 

Geraldo's the best:thumb:

And how much are those wage earners earning? What percentage of all income?

 

I don't know about income, but they do control over 90% of the wealth in the country.

 

Deuce, this is a good chart that breaks down taxes paid vs ajusted gross income. As you can see the top 5% pay a way high % of overall tax then % of overall AGI that they earn. They pay 60% tax but only make 36% of the overall total AGI.

 

We always hear from the left how the middle class supports this country but these numbers show differently. The top 10% paid $724,740,000,000 in tax while the next 40% (I am going to call these the middle class) only paid in $268,436,000,000. The remaining 50% only paid $30,563,000.

 

The top 1% paid $408,369,000,000 which is more then the 11-50% paid.

 

The chart came from this site, http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html .

 





Number of Returns with Positive AGI


AGI ($ millions)


Income Taxes Paid ($ millions)


Group's Share of Total AGI


Group's Share of Income Taxes


Income Split Point


Average Tax Rate

All Taxpayers


135,719,160


$8,122,040


$1,023,739


100%


100%


-


12.60%

Top 1%


1,357,192


$1,791,886


$408,369


22.06%


39.89%


> $388,806


22.79%

Top 2-5%


5,428,766


$1,185,828


$207,311


14.60%


20.25%




17.48%

Top 5%


6,785,958


$2,977,714


$615,680


36.66%


60.14%


> $153,542


20.68%

Top 6-10%


6,785,958


$865,430


$109,060


10.66%


10.65%




12.60%

Top 10%


13,571,916


$3,843,144


$724,740


47.32%


70.79%


> $108,904 18.86%

Top 11-25%


20,357,874


$1,692,686


$158,413


20.84%


15.47%

9.36%




Top 25%


33,929,790


$5,535,830


$883,153


68.16%


86.27%


> $64,702


15.95%

Top 26-50%


33,929,790


$1,569,769


$110,023


19.33%


10.75%




7.01%

Top 50%


67,859,580


$7,105,599


$993,176


87.49%


97.01%


> $31,987


13.98%

Bottom 50%


67,859,580


$1,016,441


$30,563


12.51%


2.99%



3.01%

I didn't watch the debate, but my girlfriend made me watch Saw IV, so I feel like I watched the debate.

I didn't watch the debate, but my girlfriend made me watch Saw IV, so I feel like I watched the debate.

 

:laugh:

Obama set a puppy on fire.

Obama set a puppy on fire.
Wouldn't surprise me. He couldn't care less about infanticide, why would a puppy matter to him?
Wouldn't surprise me. He couldn't care less about infanticide, why would a puppy matter to him?

 

Gorsh Mickey!

IMO nothing new came out of this debate, at least nothing that will change the course. I call it a draw and see Obama winning in a few weeks.

 

As an undecided democrat, REACHING for anything that will help me to vote for McCain (As I have some issues with the Obama campaign), I cannot find anything that McCain says that will sway me, and I am disappointed.

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