First off, I am Democrat, but I have crossed party lines on several occasions. I was on the John Edwards bandwagon before he bailed. At that point I was neutral. Once McCain was decided to be the Rep nominee, I leaned towards him, but that changed the more I watched Obama speak. When Obama chose Joe Biden, who I find bitter and angry, I once again leaned towards McCain. But I thought his mistake of choosing Palin, who should go back to being a Mayor IMO, was enough to lead me back to Obama. I really do miss having Bill Clinton...

Surely you address your co-workers by their first names.

 

I do...and I also look at them when I am addressing them.

Watching the replay of the debate....just got through the Iranian issue.

I think it had been a push until the Pakistan issue came up.

McCain's knowledge of Pakistan clearly shown through...I thought the continual bringing up of Obama having not met with Gen. Patreus was effective as well. Obama has said in the past he would convene the Joint Chiefs of Staff regarding withdrawal et al...it is not their call.

McCain then got really rolling when the topic reached Iran.

The issue with Russia was another winner for McCain as well.

What is fairly evident thus far and obviously it has to do with experience is the depth of knowledge that McCain has regarding foreign affairs...and it should be McCain's strength.

 

One other thing...how long are we going to continue to push solar energy? How long has that been around and just how effective is it? Doesn't seem very...

I have a bridge to sell you if you don't think it was a political move on Senator Obama part to downplay Senator McCain.

 

I can assure you that you are wrong about this one. Using the first name in politics is usually an attempt to connote peers, equals, or friends. Obama was likely trying to enforce that his disagreements were of the policy variety, not personal.

Surely you address your co-workers by their first names.

 

Surely not in a business conference with your employees present or a former business setting with not everybody knowing everybody!

 

It isn't done on the Senate floor either.

 

It called business etiquette and being respectful to one another in a proper business setting.

I have a bridge to sell you if you don't think it was a political move on Senator Obama part to downplay Senator McCain.

 

What would you have said if Senator McCain referred to Senator Obama as "Barak Hussein" all night long?

 

BTW how many times tonight did Senator Obama start off by agreeing with Senator McCain? My guess is you will see Senator Obama in many of Senator McCain ads soon agreeing time after time with what Senator McCain is saying!

 

Is this the famous "bridge to no where" that Palin was for, I mean against? :lol:

 

I might have objected to the use of the middle name (Obama didn't use McCain's middle name...he didn't call him "John Sidney")...as it has been used (especially on here) for political ploy purposes. I would not object at all to him calling him "Barack".

 

Obama did agree with McCain on several occasions...and he did acknowledge that McCain was standing on the stage with him.

 

I'll have to watch it again to be sure, but if my memory is correct, Obama referred to him as "John" when he was trying to talk to him, not when he was referencing what was being said to the audience.

Surely not in a business conference with your employees present or a former business setting with not everybody knowing everybody!

 

It isn't done on the Senate floor either.

 

It called business etiquette and being respectful to one another in a proper business setting.

 

I agree with Habib. And I like when my boss calls me by my first name in a meeting. It makes me think I have done something for her to actually remember it. Obama is genuine when he speaks, he isn't playing into the charade, he is talking to McCain as if they were at the movies together.

Is this the famous "bridge to no where" that Palin was for, I mean against? :lol:

 

I might have objected to the use of the middle name (Obama didn't use McCain's middle name...he didn't call him "John Sidney")...as it has been used (especially on here) for political ploy purposes. I would not object at all to him calling him "Barack".

 

Obama did agree with McCain on several occasions...and he did acknowledge that McCain was standing on the stage with him.

 

I'll have to watch it again to be sure, but if my memory is correct, Obama referred to him as "John" when he was trying to talk to him, not when he was referencing what was being said to the audience.

 

And Senator McCain didn't use Senator Obama first name once.....

 

But it is his name isn't it and you did say you refer to your business associates by their names.... Funny how you can see it one way but not the other! You get mighty defensive when things are turned around don't you! :sssh:

I agree with Habib. And I like when my boss calls me by my first name in a meeting. It makes me think I have done something for her to actually remember it. Obama is genuine when he speaks, he isn't playing into the charade, he is talking to McCain as if they were at the movies together.

 

But the point is they weren't at the movies and Senator Obama isn't Senator McCain boss!

And Senator McCain didn't use Senator Obama first name once.....

 

But it is his name isn't it and you did say you refer to your business associates by their names.... Funny how you can see it one way but not the other! You get might defensive when things are turned around don't you! :sssh:

 

Are you quoting the right person? Seriously. Who got defensive?

 

I don't refer to my colleagues by their middle names, only their first ones. They don't call me by my middle name, either.

I haven't said anything NEARLY like you say about McCain. I have been looking for reasons to push my support his way. All I get are slams against Obama.

 

As to whom I have supported from day one, I've defended Obama, no doubt. I found my defense of him helped me understand his positions because I was constantly researching the vitrol spewed forth here.

 

The depth of nastiness in the comments about Obama, many unfounded and inflammatory lead me to believe that while many are not thrilled with McCain as a choice, they'll take it personally if Obama wins. I also find it interesting that when asked to extol the virtues of McCain, the comments invariably are attacks on Obama.....nothing of substance offered in defense of McCain.

 

You think because someone questions the attacks that they must have decided. I would just have to say then, that maybe you're just not used to having someone question your opinion.

 

Wow. Great post RM. I can't believe how often I agree with you! :thumb::thumb::thumb:

Seemed to me like when Obama was put on the spot he did much better than some around here give him credit for. There were no teleprompters around as far as I know, and he seemed to hold his own or even beat McCain in some peoples eyes.

 

Even though I'm probably not going to vote in this election, I watched the entire debate. I enjoyed it and I feel like both candidates did a pretty good job. I thought McCain did better talking about the economy than I would have ever imagined he would have, while I thought Obama did better on Iraq/Afghanistan than I thought he would have. I'm not sure who win, if anyone though.

I haven't said anything NEARLY like you say about McCain. I have been looking for reasons to push my support his way. All I get are slams against Obama.

 

As to whom I have supported from day one, I've defended Obama, no doubt. I found my defense of him helped me understand his positions because I was constantly researching the vitrol spewed forth here.

 

The depth of nastiness in the comments about Obama, many unfounded and inflammatory lead me to believe that while many are not thrilled with McCain as a choice, they'll take it personally if Obama wins. I also find it interesting that when asked to extol the virtues of McCain, the comments invariably are attacks on Obama.....nothing of substance offered in defense of McCain.

 

You think because someone questions the attacks that they must have decided. I would just have to say then, that maybe you're just not used to having someone question your opinion.

Good post! :thumb:

I didn't watch the debate- the more I think about it, the more I realize that I'm not even a political junkie, I just like arguing on here and talking about economics. :lol:

 

I did tune in for the last few minutes, and, was McCain trying to get the veteran vote THAT much the entire debate? I think in like 5 answers I heard him say "The veterans? I love them" 3 or 4 times.

I went to the Meade County-Nelson County game.

 

Mrs. Hearsay, who is registered as an Independent and believes in subsidized health care, said that Obama said "John is right" a lot, that McCain looked constipated, that both of their answers appeared canned, and that she was annoyed that Obama kept calling McCain "John" and our President "Mr. Bush," rather than "Senator" and "President." Said it comes off as disrespectful.

 

Hearsay's 6-year old thinks his Mommy should vote for "that white-haired guy" because he can fly fighter planes. I gave him ice cream for that.